3 Strikes To Be Administered By Post Office Subsidiary
Written by enigmax on July 21, 2009The now infamous 3 strikes model championed by France’s Nicholas Sarkozy was recently rejected by the country’s highest legal authority. With amendments the plan is back and the latest news is that a subsidiary of the post office will administer the scheme. Lawmakers will today start debating the modified bill.
After its initial adoption in May 2009, the original version of the controversial Hadopi anti-piracy legislation was nuked by the Constitutional Council, France’s highest legal authority. Taking a similar stance to that of the European Parliament, the Council declared the proposals unconstitutional and demanded that accused individuals have a fair trial.
A modified version of the bill, which passes the ultimate disconnection decision to a judge, was accepted July 8th by the French Senate.
Now, according to a report, the Ministry of Culture has decided that a company called Extelia – a subsidiary of the post office – will be made responsible for administering identification information and sanctions under the so-called Hadopi legislation.
Extelia will be responsible for processing the IP addresses provided by the rights holders and collecting subscriber information from ISPs. The company will then send out emails and letters advising allegedly infringing recipients of their obligations under the law. It will also manage the issuing of sanctions, the monitoring of their implementation and connection restoration following the dreaded 3rd strike.
Extelia will conduct a trial period of 10 to 12 months beginning this fall, to be financed by the Hadopi agency from its annual budget of 6.7 million euros (apprx $9.5m).
To begin, around 1000 semi-automated warning emails will be sent out per day, which is just one tenth of the proposed output when the scheme is up to speed.
The outfit that will actually carry out the monitoring of suspected infringers is yet to be decided. However, Marc Guez CEO of music collection society Civil Society of Phonographic Producers (SCPP) – which works with the likes of EMI, Warner, Universal and Sony BMG – said that two companies are in the running, Advestigo and TMG.
Lawmakers in the lower house of parliament will start debating today on the modified bill. However, the opposition Socialists are threatening to refer the bill back to the Constitutional Council after loading more than 700 amendments, apparently in an attempt to slow down parliamentary debate.
If the bill successfully passes the lower house, it will next be examined by lawmakers from both the upper and lower houses and submitted to a new vote in both houses of parliament, before eventually becoming law.
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well…
How bloody stupid can Sarkozy get. This will get stuck down again by the Constitutional Council, bad law is bad law pure and simple.
Man, I really hope this falls through…
I want Sarkozy to make this law, so the rest of the world can see that it doesn’t work.
IP’s alone are not evidence enough.
Unfortunatly, where I live, in New Zealand may be going the same way.
Sarkozy is in the pockets of these media corps.
His wife is far too connected to these media corps.
Seriosly bad news for french people.
What about french schools , students and the regular NOT rich person.
Sarkozy = = = If YOU share because you can’t afford to buy… Say bye bye to internet access.
Wait… warning EMAILS ?? They will probably quickly disappear in spam filters… they can’t be serious
they should figure out if they need to send that many warning letters out, then maybe the general public like to download… after all the government is SUPPOSED to be the publics bitch, oh what a surprise the system doesn’t work
nonsense
Europe and Freedom just don’t mix.
@10
We are following the crazy madness of USA …
@ USA started all the copyright junk.
French people are bitterly against this. This will turn the youth vote against Sarkozy and yes there is a Pirate Party in France for them to register their votes. The Socialists are loving this because it is making Sarko look more and more stupid as he becomes even more desperate for this to go through. Enjoy the backlash Mr S coz it is going to bite you
since when is the post office a police force…
i think extelia is a pretty cool guy. eh disconnects people from the internet and doesnt afraid of anything
So that’s 6.7 million euros of taxpayer money wasted on doing the MAFIAA’s bidding by that sock puppet Sarkozy.
respect to the man if he can pull a chick like his wife then theres hope for all deranged midgets in society
he should stick to humping her and leave the real stuff to the adults
Well, Sarkozy is openly supporting organized crime and terrorism from USA, against the will of the citizens from France, that’s a fact.
I really think that if Sarkozy dies in some moment this will be a great relief for the people in France.
[..] to be financed by the Hadopi agency from its annual budget of 6.7 million euros
WTF? Now every tax-abiding citizen is indirectly made responsible for actions of pirates.
That makes like 10 cents per head, but anyway. I’d rather give 10 euros directly to the artist, than see it being wasted by sending shit to people.
“To begin, around 1000 semi-automated warning emails will be sent out per day, which is just one tenth of the proposed output when the scheme is up to speed.”
If this world was run on common sense, the fact that so many warning emails would be sent out, and so many more will probably be sent out in the future kinda says that it’s not the people who are the issue, but the law. Maybe lawmakers should pay more attention to what their citizens prefer.
I’m bored of 3 strikes. Can we have something original, please?
France needs another revolution, methinks…
Am I the only one that thinks it’s weird that they’ll send warning e-mails?
How do they know the E-mail from an IP-adress?
This whole affair reeks.
@21: They contact the ISP and send the warning to the ISP-supplied address. It’s a whole different thing that no one reads his/her ISP-supplied e-mail account these days…
Nazi politicians! Hang them..
Are they realy monitoring which sites the french users visit?
Retroshare and StealthNet for the french.
The funny part is pirates already have the solution that will make those laws irrelevant LoL
The opposition and some members of the main party at the assembly raised 700 objections. Since the parlementary holidays start the 24th, the law will be debated in september.
There are huge chances everything gets dropped in the end, since the law is still anticonstitutional.
Another smoke screen. And more certainty that those governing us are under educated idiots.
They should just save some time and disconnect everyone in France from the internet. That’s obviously what they want to do (it’s the only way to stop file sharing!), and it’s what this stupid law will end up doing eventually.
what is wrong with this world??
@20, agreed.. we need good old revolutions in most countries of the world.
The bill failed five times to get passed? What makes them think it will get passed again.
Oh wait, I forgot the media is full of greedy apes just digging their own grave.
Im just going to download on other networks and let them take the fall..
Sorry, well no im not sorry cause I dont care.. dumb laws.. too bad.
Really.. its just as simple as walking 10 feet down the street and finding a open wireless network.. and thats not even getting 1% creative..
this law means nothing, will do nothing except waste your money.. GUARANTEED. This isnt my opinion, it is fact. Good job wasting tax payers money for pointless crap that wont work! Just like America!
Haha!
The French!
Hahahaha!
Nicholas Sarkozy…
French…
LOL
I wonder how they are going to collect copyright infrigers data?
probably, torrent sites should just add random ip’s into their seed leech list so that all these automated scripts will start sending harassment emails to absolutely innocent people.
I am sure thes monitoring companies will ne too dumb to use any more sophisticated methods than just grab user lists from torrent site without checking anything, because that takes lots of time.
also blocking users who are monitoring too much torrents and do not upload anything ssould be good countermeasure against that crap.
if some Ip or ip block is downloading all torrents this is very suspiciuos.
the french about to surrender yet again
cmon hold steady!!!
Ho ho ho…
Oi Sarkozy,
EU has already ruled on this. Deal with it & fukk off.
yeah, wouldn’t it be fairly easy to get the law declared unlawfull by the european courts?
French people, can you give a tip on some good torrent sites for French films? Some people in a language forum were asking…
Plus — if you feel nervous about it, just get a VPN or a torrent-proxy service for EUR 5 per month, problem solved until the madness goes away.
I can assure you, french people love to pass throuh law. Fist e-mail they’ll get: Google. And then, they’re going to download again.
Good thing about this shit is that it’ll show everybody how stupid it is to forget that internet is indeed, a great exchange place.
Well there’s one more: Sarkozy is making youth angry.
Never trust politicians in power. They do not understand the word “NO” – they will keep pushing until they get their way, no matter how much legal trickery they have to do, how many lies they have to tell and how many people they have to hurt.
The only way to end this is to put a bullet in Sarkozy’s head, too bad the french are the biggest pussies on the globe.
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