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Operation in Our Sites: Feds Arrest 19-Year-Old Streaming Site Admin

A man has been arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations agents in connection with streaming live sporting events over the Internet. The 19-year-old allegedly ran HQ-Streams.com and HQ-Streams.net, domains that were previously seized by ICE as part of Operation in Our Sites.

In early February 2011, U.S. authorities began the third round of Operation in Our Sites, the process which takes allegedly copyright-infringing sites offline by taking possession of their domain names.

This wave of seizures, which took place with the Super Bowl just around the corner, netted 10 domains including Atdhe.net, ChannelSurfing.net, HQ-Streams.com, HQ-Streams.net, Firstrow.net, Ilemi.com, Ilemi.net, Iilemi.com, RojaDirecta.org and RojaDirecta.org.

Now the individual behind two of the domains, HQ-Streams.com and HQ-Streams.net, has not only lost his domains but now potentially faces losing his freedom.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) have confirmed their agents arrested a New York man this week on suspicion of illegally streaming copyrighted sports events over the Internet.

Mohamed Ali, 19, of Hollis, N.Y., was taken into custody at his home in Queens and charged with a single count of criminal copyright infringement.

“Today’s arrest sends a clear message to website operators who mistakenly believe it’s worth the risk to take copyrighted programming and portray it as their own,” said ICE Director John Morton.

“Protecting legitimate business interests are a priority for HSI, the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center and our law enforcement partners. We are dedicated to protecting the jobs, the income and the tax revenue that disappear when organized criminals traffic in stolen content for their own profit.”

Seized

According to the criminal complaint, between February 2010 to January 2011 Ali used his domains to show events from the World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), the Ultimate Fighting Championship and (UFC) and other boxing events.

ICE says that Ali charged $6, $12 and up to $25 to access links which would allow visitors to watch events. There appears to be no claim that Ali provided the streams himself.

At the time Ali’s domains were seized, ICE were very clear that they were targeting sites that were “among the most popular on the Internet for illegally distributing copyrighted sporting events”, but since then his domains have received just 50,000 hits, even though masses of news coverage will have boosted interest among Internet users. But clearly not all hits turn into business.

While ICE claim that Ali charged a fee to view streams, they say that in approximately a year he made just $6,000. A tap of the calculator reveals that at the $6 ‘cheap rate’ just 1,000 ‘tickets’ were sold, at $12 just 500 and at the top rate, around 240. If this is what constitutes one of the “most popular” sites, piracy is truly under control.

In August 2010, HQ-streams.com was hit with a direct court order from the UFC which restrained it from broadcasting their events, an order with which the site at least initially complied.

“Too (sic) All Members Of The Forum, There won’t be any UFC 118 stream here this Saturday,” said a notice posted on the site at the time. “We don’t want our site to get into troubles (sic) with Zuffa!”

Troubles with Zuffa, it seems, were the least of their worries.

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  • Gargamel

    If he was profiting from piracy fukem

    • Hhhh

      FU! Legalsounds makes profit, but we all love it.

      • DarknezzMadnezz

        No clue what Legalsounds is and if it requires me to pay to DL or listen to music while on the site… Then fuck them as well…
        Anyone profiting from piracy should be removed from our community.
        I show no love for these homo thugs.

        • http://twitter.com/livefromwalmart Anonymous Worker

          Lol torrentfreak technically profits from piracy, they report on it and their site serves ads. So lololol.

        • Anonymous

          ì just got an iPad 2-32GB for $ 22.54 and my girlfriend loves her Panasonìc Lumìx GF 1 Camera that we got for $ 38.76 there arriving tomorrow by UPS. I will never pay such expensive retail prices in stores again. Especially when I also sold a 40 inch LED TV to my boss for $ 657 which only cost me $ 62.81 tobuy.
          Here is the website we use to get it all from,
          bit.ly/ShopBid

      • Jeff

        Looks like a Russian site, which would make it totally legal (they aren’t profiting from piracy).

    • Wrath of the Tyrant

      Aphorism, much?

    • MAFIAAFire

      > If he was profiting from piracy fukem
      I doubt its so black and white…

      “Today’s arrest sends a clear message to website operators who mistakenly believe it’s worth the risk to take copyrighted programming and portray it as their own”

      Ummm, yes, if you are in the US and dont have money to hire the big lawyers… if you are elsewhere watch ICE walking back with their tail between their legs.

      Of the 10 domains seized around the Super Bowl most were brought back to the masses by MAFIAAFire Redirector (http://torrentfreak.com/firefox-add-on-undoes-u-s-government-domain-seizures-110414/) , not only are they outdated but these guys are as effective as using superglue to stick two cubes of ice under a summer sun.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      I do agree with you. However, I don’t trust anything with the adjective “official” attached to it. Since it’s an “official” statement one can only wonder if this is what actually happened.

      So, if the “official” version is right, the guy can go fuck himself indeed. But do not lose focus, the whole process is flawed, he shouldn’t have lost the domains without proper process. And hopefully, whether guilty/liable or not, he’ll go through proper process this time.

      • BallJuggler

        totally, for all we know those fuckers tamper with the story to appear as the good guys to the masses;media … just as they’ve done NUMEROUS times in the past.

    • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

      Profiting from piracy isn’t immoral assuming you are charging for a service (like Usenet for example).

    • Joe

      $6,000 a yaer, server cost not profit, fckwit.

    • Anonymous

      I would be very careful with what they say. It could well be on-site donations they refer to out of context.

      This claim does need investigation when it is of course wrong to charge people to access something another person put online for free.

      Donations and adverts are a grey area and best avoided if possible but a high end server and high transfer rates need paying for somehow.

      Keep in mind he operated a links site and linking is lawful in most countries.

      • RandomNetUser

        How does Google get away with linking in country’s where link is not legal?

    • Anonymous

      I would be very careful with what they say. It could well be on-site donations they refer to out of context.

      This claim does need investigation when it is of course wrong to charge people to access something another person put online for free.

      Donations and adverts are a grey area and best avoided if possible but a high end server and high transfer rates need paying for somehow.

      Keep in mind he operated a links site and linking is lawful in most countries.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      Dude, this is Muhamed Ali! He’s not going down without a fight! Float like a butterball, sting like a flea!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      Dude, this is Muhamed Ali! He’s not going down without a fight! Float like a butterball, sting like a flea!

      • Ven

        See, I was gonna say he is probably so nervous his hands are shaking.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      “ICE says that Ali charged $6, $12 and up to $25 to access links which would allow visitors to watch events. There appears to be no claim that Ali provided the streams himself.”

      Second that. Although I still consider linking to be neutral (after all, fair be fair, the one hosting the content should be the legally observed culprit), my fervor for fairness doesn’t go as far as defending this guy.

      Basically, though I find no fault with linking, I’d say he deserves a fraud charge for taking cash for linking to what is most likely a freely accessible source.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002639684444 Ryan Smith

    It is currently considered a crime under US law to distribute content prior to it’s retail availability. He is probably going to be charged differently and face harsher punishment than if he had streamed a past super bowl.

  • https://bit.ly/r9hLxa w3ts1ut

    “Today’s arrest sends a clear message to website operators who mistakenly believe it’s worth the risk to take copyrighted programming and portray it as their own,”

    Yeah well, John Moron, you’d be wrong. An admin for another file sharing site assures us, if anything, “Today’s arrest makes ICE just look worse.”

  • hikaricore

    Really? His name is Mohamed Ali?! Epic.

  • http://hyperlexic.com hyperlexic

    what do you think this kid is facing in terms of punishment?

    • Wrath of the Tyrant

      1,000,000 years to life. They’ll get him to plead guilty and he’ll just get a slap on the wrist.

      Or aren’t you familiar with the American justice system?

      • http://hyperlexic.com hyperlexic

        Unfortunately, I’m painfully familiar with the American Justice System. Like you posted below, I am amazed that all these federal agencies are involved in this, and I’m thinking, ‘Jesus, is this kid going to actually do jailtime over this, or do these federal twats really have nothing better to do?’ and good question, why is ICE involved? Dept of Homeland Security Investigations? Really? Yikes – my paranoia bone just snapped in two.

      • Lynx

        You mean legal system.. there is no justice in America.

        • AO1JMM

          Generalise much?

  • Guest

    John moron is a fool and these feeds are a bunch of criminal and idiots who are going to understand their mistake working for the corporations instead of the people. Once many gov web sites will be hacked and a lot of their confidential and classified information on the net may be they will regain their sense but I doubt it..

    I am not going to vote Obama at the next election. Sorry!!! Joe bit me the RIAA troll can kiss my ass!

    ANONYMOUS!!!!!

    • http://twitter.com/david_boulton David Boulton

      I’m sorry but there isn’t anyone better than Obama (I’m not American, btw). Seriously though, who would you vote for in his stead?

      Americans really fail to understand what makes a good leader and Obama is one of them. I blame Fox news.

      • Randomtandom

        Cough RON PAUL cough

        • An Unwashed Heathen

          Wyden

        • 4Republic

          Ron paul #1 or rick perry

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

          Greg Johnson

        • BallJuggler

          I have a problem with people that promote Ron Paul as Jesus or the guy who “gets it”, the REALLY good guy, “this is the good one”… I’ve seen videos of Ron Paul and my first reaction is : to semi-close my eyes in that suspicions manner and think “riiight… what the catch?”, this guy (in the way he speak) seems “honest” and with common sense policies.
          What’s the difference between him and pre-elected Obama? … Obama promised this and that and ended up doing opposite on most if not all of his “promises” … didn’t he said that he was going to retire the army from middle east and cut bureaucratic spending? … if the economy is so bad, the how come he hasn’t changed back the presidential wage back to save some money?… bush apparently felt it wasn’t enough and raise $100,000 more to it (yearly), not to mention that the fucker doesn’t use jack shit of that money for his personal expenses, apparently being president entitles you to “representation expenses” which is just a pretty term for WELFARE!
          At the end my problem is with people that have that “Jesus” president in the back, that guy who is apparently as pure as a nouns vagina, and everybody else is a crook bastard… but in the end he turns out just as the other fuckers.
          And what do those people do when it turns wrong?… they smear him and find another “Jesus” to promote like the savior just like they promoted the previous fucker…

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          Ron Paul presents his own set of problems – notably yes, he’s a hardcore conservative liberal with both feet solidly planted on the constitutional liberties as a foundation for his policies.

          He’s also a fundamentalist christian with all which this applies. If the US ended up with Ron Paul alone they’d be lucky, but odds are in order to get elected we’d be looking at him dragging along his own versions of Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Cheney as unwanted baggage.

          No one would have guessed that Obama, being a relative technophile, would be standing at the helm of the current ICE operations – and to be honest, he’s not. That’s being handled by Joe Biden altogether, being a less important issue than, say, keeping the US economy in one piece.

          My guess is it doesn’t matter how badly screwed up the ICE operations get – when Jon Bernanke is knocking on the oval office door the EFF and the other civic rights organizations get to cool their heels in no man’s land.

      • Anonymous

        Obama sucks, everybody knows that ! Can you tell me what he did since he’s president ? Close Guantanamo prison ? Fail ! Take off soldiers of Iraq and Afganistan ? Fail ! Take out the USA off the financial crisis ? EPIC FAIL !!!! and more and more….
        But for seizing domain names and control our internet, and now arrest an admin for running a streaming website, OK , ICE under his control act as fast as his popularity in the USA and in the world goes down !
        Now i just hope that someone in the world will be ready to take the place fo this admin and keep this website online, because this website was actually very usefull for me as WWE ppv and show arent on tv here.

        • AFK

          Its because of Obama that the world will be ending in 2012… well maybe not just because of him… but putting an ignorant black guy in the white house as president… ya that was smart america.

        • http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis

          @AFK, yea it’s the black guy’s fault, like Bush did any better.
          And don’t hope in a better president, whoever is elected he has such little power that is 100% controlled by big corporations/organisations (mpaa-riaa, whoever has that amount of money anyway).
          Whatever the intentions of the president is, if he supports the people and not the big guys he will either end up dead, or bribed/threatened to do whatever they want.

        • Joe

          As a brit I have to say Obhama is a great president, probably on of your better ones, lets be hionest the other side will be giving you another bush.
          I honestly think its time Americans werent allowed to vote at all, they know absolutely nothing about polotics.
          I’m rich, make me richer…whatever guys.

        • Deadxsouls

          Joe, the “other side” will hopefully be sending Ron Paul to the white house. If there was ever a major candidate that would fit in with the Pirate Party, it would be him.

        • anon

          In reply to “Joe the Brit”: The US citizens do not directly vote for the president. The way it works (in theory) is we as citizens cast our vote for the president THEN the Electoral College casts it’s vote for president. The Electoral College is a body that was formed at the dawn of America because it was too hard to gather votes from the citizens and is supposed to vote the way the majority of the citizens in each state vote. For example if New York citizens voted 50.1% for candidate “A” the Electoral College of New York votes for candidate “A”. However there has been numerous times in history where the College has basically said “Screw You” to the citizens and voted the way they wanted. So we as citizens (until we abolish the Electoral College) really have no say in the election of president.

      • AFK

        The Smurfs

      • AFK

        The Smurfs

      • FuzzyDuck

        Sorry Obama is not a /good/ leader by any stretch of the imagination. He hasn’t delivered on most of his promises (wars are still going on) and his administration is actively eroding civil liberties in the US, in part for the MAFIAA and in part to keep their misdeeds secret (look at how they reacted to Wikileaks) and in part to have power over the people (extending the Bush era patriot act). The main difference with G.W.Bush is that he talks better and appears more sympathetic, but in the end that’s just window dressing.

      • Anonymous

        Look fool. You’re not American so your opinion don’t mean shit to us. It is NOT your business who we vote for. Obama is destroying this country and I’m going to assume you don’t know jack shit about America. Here’s a thought. What if you hated your king, president, dictator, anal dwelling butt monkey, whatever you call your leader, and he/she was ruing YOUR country and Americans came along and said “I love that guy. I wish he would butt rape his people more often. AND IN PUBLIC.” ? How would you feel? And then would talk crap about one of your news networks that NOBODY in America watches?

        I don’t know what country you live in, but I sure as well wouldn’t say your people are retarded for voting for the leader most of you don’t like, nor would I talk shit about your news networks or your country in general.

        If you WERE American then your opinion on how great our “King and savior” president is would matter and I wouldn’t complain. If anything I would disagree with you but try to be polite about it. Otherwise, FUCK OFF.
        Yes I voted for McCain, NOT Obama. And I have every right, regardless of that fact, to criticize him.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          “Yes I voted for McCain, NOT Obama. And I have every right, regardless of that fact, to criticize him.”

          You certainly do. But what you are taking issue with is also the fact that most people looking at Sarah Palin as VP and McCain as CiC would be like taking the actively malicious parts of GWB and putting a real brain behind them…and keeping the malice of Cheney and removing the brains behind it.

          You had no good options in that election just as you usually never did. Obama was the better choice if the alternative was to keep the current administrative setup. Hell, Chairman Mao would have been a better alternative as long as it meant getting rid of the administration propping up Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld.
          Criticize away. I can’t say, as a european, that Obama proved to be in any way a “good” choice. The best I can say is that he appears to be content to mainly screw stuff up internally and not so much in the rest of the world.

          I can sympathize with you on this, however – I wouldn’t want him and Biden standing at the helm of where I live either.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          “Yes I voted for McCain, NOT Obama. And I have every right, regardless of that fact, to criticize him.”

          You certainly do. But what you are taking issue with is also the fact that most people looking at Sarah Palin as VP and McCain as CiC would be like taking the actively malicious parts of GWB and putting a real brain behind them…and keeping the malice of Cheney and removing the brains behind it.

          You had no good options in that election just as you usually never did. Obama was the better choice if the alternative was to keep the current administrative setup. Hell, Chairman Mao would have been a better alternative as long as it meant getting rid of the administration propping up Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld.
          Criticize away. I can’t say, as a european, that Obama proved to be in any way a “good” choice. The best I can say is that he appears to be content to mainly screw stuff up internally and not so much in the rest of the world.

          I can sympathize with you on this, however – I wouldn’t want him and Biden standing at the helm of where I live either.

      • Anonymous

        Look fool. You’re not American so your opinion don’t mean shit to us. It is NOT your business who we vote for. Obama is destroying this country and I’m going to assume you don’t know jack shit about America. Here’s a thought. What if you hated your king, president, dictator, anal dwelling butt monkey, whatever you call your leader, and he/she was ruing YOUR country and Americans came along and said “I love that guy. I wish he would butt rape his people more often. AND IN PUBLIC.” ? How would you feel? And then would talk crap about one of your news networks that NOBODY in America watches?

        I don’t know what country you live in, but I sure as well wouldn’t say your people are retarded for voting for the leader most of you don’t like, nor would I talk shit about your news networks or your country in general.

        If you WERE American then your opinion on how great our “King and savior” president is would matter and I wouldn’t complain. If anything I would disagree with you but try to be polite about it. Otherwise, FUCK OFF.
        Yes I voted for McCain, NOT Obama. And I have every right, regardless of that fact, to criticize him.

      • Anonymous

        P.S. I flagged your comment ’cause your a fucking troll.

  • Wrath of the Tyrant

    I just want to know one, single, insignificant trifle of a fact:

    What exactly does copyright infringement have to do with: immigration, customs, or homeland security? And why are all these terms conglomerated into one monolithic, bureaucratic agency?

    Okay, two facts. I would like to know these two facts. Thank you.

    • Piratescum

      because pirates are doing more damage to the economy than illegal immigrants or terrorists.

      • TOYS

        If that is true then us pirates need to start setting off bombs killing hundreds if not thousands of people to make it truly a good reason for these retards to be involved.
        Ither way as long as they don’t attempt to enforce their laws outside of their country, they can do what they wish… The moment they start invading other countries is when people may truly get hurt.

      • TheGuyImReplyingToIsAnIdiot

        Let’s pause for a second and stop and think, Piratescum (a.k.a. the biggest IDIOT in these comments). Waging two wars (both of which do not appear to be ending any time soon), enacting laws and creating departments to deal with terrorism and security, and propping up failing businesses with bail-outs/special laws (automotive industry, insurance industry, entertainment industry) ARE DOING MORE DAMAGE TO THE ECONOMY than copyright infringement.

        I give you an F in regards to your trolling. It lacks class, intelligence and actual “arguments”. You sir/ma’am FAIL.

      • TheGuyImReplyingToIsAnIdiot

        Let’s pause for a second and stop and think, Piratescum (a.k.a. the biggest IDIOT in these comments). Waging two wars (both of which do not appear to be ending any time soon), enacting laws and creating departments to deal with terrorism and security, and propping up failing businesses with bail-outs/special laws (automotive industry, insurance industry, entertainment industry) ARE DOING MORE DAMAGE TO THE ECONOMY than copyright infringement.

        I give you an F in regards to your trolling. It lacks class, intelligence and actual “arguments”. You sir/ma’am FAIL.

      • Anonymous

        You’re retarded. File-sharers have been known to actually BUY more than people who don’t pirate. Terrorists terrorize and kill people. It has an effect on the economy because some companies may be force out of business by them and/or people are afraid to go back to work. Also if they blow up a building and cause significant damage, people may get laid off because it will take too long to repair the building and continue business. Illegal immigrants steal jobs and send tons of money to their home country which means less money circulating in our country so the feds gotta print more money which devalues the dollar and causes inflation. Also a lot of illegal immigrants commit crimes. Crimes cost a lot of taxpayer dollars to prosecute as well as deporting illegals if they do. Less tax dollars means less money to go towards more important things like education, helping low income families, fixing that pothole in the road you hit and blew a tire out, and so on. Perhaps you should think before you open your mouth, or at least put ketchup on your foot first.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          “It has an effect on the economy because some companies may be force out of business by them and/or people are afraid to go back to work.”

          You just described the weaver’s guilds just after the “spinning Jenny” was invented. It’s an old, old conflict where new technology renders the business model of an old industry redundant or largely irrelevant.

          To be sure, select parts of the current industry could live and thrive under this new paradigm but there is an awful lot of deadwood and gross margin which is going away forever or will get shuffled into entirely other sectors of the economical ecology.

          And that’s why a lot of people at the head of massive corporations are crying that the sky is falling. For them, it is.

    • anon

      Anytime counterfeit goods are brought into the US it falls under Custom’s jurisdiction. In my opinion copies of the source material are not counterfeit, but what do I know. When ICE was formed back in 2002-2003 it was a way to increase the power of both Customs and Immigration.

    • Ven

      For-profit infringement is considered by law enforcement agencies to fall under counterfeiting enforcement. When it crosses over a national border (or is taking place across international internet connections) it becomes a matter of homeland defense (Homeland defense (HD) is the protection of U.S. territory, sovereignty, domestic population, and critical infrastructure against external threats and aggression. – Homeland Defense, Joint Publication JP 3-27).

      Those agencies mentioned above have all been transitioned in the last decade to reside within the reach of the Department of Homeland Security, which by definition of the term only has to do with terrorism. Essentially, DHS is in some way responsible for deciding how to deal with any crimes not committed entirely within the United States by U.S. citizens.

  • Notme

    Tomorrow massive hacks and fed information leaks will send a clear message to all these federal criminal such as Moron, Joe bit me, Feinsntein and Horin Hash that you can not commit treason with impunity doing the deal of foreign corporation who pay for your electoral campaign. Sooner or later something wrong happen.

  • Juliank466

    serves him right, a sports broadcast is like a business, if he’s stealing and selling the feed’s of these events to everyone online than the sports industry loses money and ratings, he was just a greedy bastard and anyone who tries to make money off others hard work should get no less than what he deserves

  • Piratescum

    he was making money off sports feed, serves him right. hope he gets jail and stays there. bloody scum.

    • D4v3

      I’ll kind of have to agree on that. One thing is to share freely, other is asking for money and making money with something it is not yours. That’s different, and I agree with you.

      • Joe

        $6,000, making money…try running a website for less than $6,000 a year. Dumbasses.
        As my old dad always says, its better to let people think your dumb, than open your moputh and prove it….shutup guys eh.!

        • Piratescum

          shut up dumbass, you dont know shit and your dad is a retard.

        • Deadxsouls

          Because it costs SO much to create a website to post links. *insert eyeroll*

    • Anonymous

      No need to post twice with a different name you troll.

      Don’t worry. We are going to serve these Fed criminals well too.

    • Anonymous

      No need to post twice with a different name you troll.

      Don’t worry. We are going to serve these Fed criminals well too.

  • Anonymous

    “Mohamed Ali, 19, of Hollis, N.Y., was taken into custody at his home in Queens and charged with a single count of criminal copyright infringement.”

    WTF? Charged with only 1 count of copyright infringement and accused of profiting from it and not charged with anything else? That makes no sense at all. Jamie Thomas shared 24 songs and never got arrested for it to my knowledge.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohammed Ali… i smell racism. or scapegoating.

    But he shouldn’t have made money off someone elses back; since it weren’t his streams.

    • Anonymous

      I get so sick of people playing the god damn ‘race card’ every fucking chance they get.
      I do agree with you that it is wrong for him to make money off other people’s works.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        How? By offering a service at a cheaper price than what the PPV channels were offering? By putting the money to better server space at all? I find it akin to scalping. It’s an economic issue. Why should he go to jail for it?

        Seriously, why is making money such an evil that it makes him a villain in this scenario?

  • A-Tuin

    Yes he charged for access, but did he profit?
    Unless his intent was to make money rather than provide a service, I see very little difference to a torrent site receiving donations to be able to access and this service.

    Yes I know you don’t have to donate, but there’s still money changing hands and in both instances there’s associated costs.

    I don’t believe that the service will have cost him $6000 for a year if they’re only acting like a payment gateway would.

    This seems more like selling bootleg DVDs than running a torrent site to me, but we don’t have all the facts.

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  • Anonymous

    Must be a sudden shortage of REAL crime in the US. What a joke.
    anon-stuff.at.tc

  • http://twitter.com/MarkGisleson Mark Gisleson

    I watched a lot of NBA games on ATDHE. It was always obvious that whoever was running it wasn’t making any money from it — most of the commercials were streamed by the original broadcaster!

    American pro sports leverages its content by forcing fans to buy expensive cable/dish plans. All of these whores take tax breaks from the communities they operate out of, as well as state and federal “gifts.” Congress could easily mandate that all teams receiving tax breaks digitally b’cast all games to local audiences. Instead, local fans suffer the outrage of blackouts (in the NBA you can buy League Pass but if you live near the team you can’t watch any home games!).

    Like everything else in America, sports is broken. Ali is a hero to me. Yes, the streams were crappy, but for this brokeass motherfucker living in the Twin Cities, watching Timberwolves games would have cost me $60+ a month for an extortionate cable package. That’s over $500 a year just to watch 80 some basketball games.

    Only the NFL makes its product available reliably on free TV. All the rest of our pro sports are locked up behind cable paywalls.

    I can’t wait for Muhamed Ali to turn 35 so he can run for President.

  • 4Republic

    Oh well he was making money off something he didnt own or license to. he should know that before start the business.

  • 4Republic

    Oh well he was making money off something he didnt own or license to. he should know that before start the business.

  • Anonymous

    it’s more about mission creep. ice: get a life

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  • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

    Anyone who is charging money for “pirated” files should be arrested and have their site taken down. “Piracy” is about sharing information for free, not about charging for it in any way, shape, or form. But also, ICE? Why are they busy with this instead of other things? You know, operation In OUr Sights sounds so suspicious. It seems as though these people are trying to make sure everything that is done online is “in their sight,” and can be controlled by them. But that is just an analysis of the name of the operation.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      “Anyone who is charging money for “pirated” files should be arrested and have their site taken down. “Piracy” is about sharing information for free, not about charging for it in any way, shape, or form.”

      No offense, but that is poorly thought out reasoning. He charged for a service provided. The UFC or PPV channels could have done the same thing and driven him out of business. It’s like saying take down all cyberlockers because one *might* have copyrighted material. And charging for extra space just means more chances to be proven right.

      Piracy is not about sharing information for free. It’s about high costs of media, low incomes, and cheap digital technologies being the main ingredients to piracy.

      Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-karaganis/the-simple-economics-of-p_b_887110.html

      Obviously, since PPV is priced too highly and people can find cheaper alternatives, they can save that consumer surplus for other uses.

  • Theprofessionalnyc

    They are trying to extradite that college aged kid in Europe as well for doing this and they already arrested that kid from Texas USA for the same issues. Whenever someone is making $$$$ off of pirating it is criminal so they go after them. :-(
    I’m all for sharing via bittorrent but they take you down if you are making $$$ off of it

  • Theprofessionalnyc

    They are trying to extradite that college aged kid in Europe as well for doing this and they already arrested that kid from Texas USA for the same issues. Whenever someone is making $$$$ off of pirating it is criminal so they go after them. :-(
    I’m all for sharing via bittorrent but they take you down if you are making $$$ off of it

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  • True North

    Why are all of you say he was making money? Why are all of you saying he was streaming these sporting events??

    READ THE F*CKING ARTICLE!

    He was providing LINKS to other streaming sites, if anyone is guilty its them,not Ali.

    IF he was making this BIG MONEY i dont see it, between server costs , site costs, and plus his own equipment and “time”(say he pays himself $10/hr for his work) i`d say he was losing money……….

  • Not naive

    well this is what happens when you register sites with godaddy and use your real info.
    i have a few warez sites, aslong as u keep ur phone number and email address upto date nothing will happen.
    His own fault for being so naive

  • Anon

    Who cares if he was charging for access or not? He was facilitating infringement, end of story. ICE did their job, one less copy/distribution jerk running free and now we get to watch and see who is next. Get used to it. This only ends when you overthrow all government. lol

    • http://twitter.com/MarkGisleson Mark Gisleson

      You do realize that the content he was streaming included games watched by people for whom the game had been blacked out? Professional sports leagues like to talk about being America’s pastime but then they black out games so home fans who can’t afford tickets don’t get to see the games.

      Pro sports leagues are establishing exclusive deals with pay media, all but guaranteeing that poor kids will have trouble following their team. Remember that BS rightwing crap about the poor can’t be poor if they have cable? If you love sports, cable’s mandatory. Apparently the new rules are that if you’re poor, you don’t get to watch any sports. To watch my hometown team requires $500 worth of cable per season. ¡Viva capitalism!

      The people who paid (I didn’t) didn’t do so for access, they did so to help cover his costs. $6,000 isn’t income, not in New York. And thanks to this guy, Wolves fans in the Twin Cities did chat threads over 1,000 comments long with half the commenters watching the “Illegal” stream.

      • Anon

        So what’s your point? That he facilitated infringement and other people paid him to keep doing it and that makes it okay because they couldn’t see the ball game?

        You can’t be serious. Broadway sells out routinely and by your logic people who can’t get in should be entitled to a free feed. lol Pirates. Classic pirate bullshit. Such deep thinkers.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

          “You can’t be serious. Broadway sells out routinely and by your logic people who can’t get in should be entitled to a free feed.”

          Ever heard of scalpers?

          They usually help to sell tickets at the door that may be higher or lower depending on demand.

        • AnonSucks

          I have a few things I’d like to show you Anon, that are completely irrelevant to this article, because of the last time we discussed something, you decided to throw “evidence” out there about Jay-Z and Kanye West and their CIA like precautions concerning their latest album and misquote people from said article. Which you got called out on, by myself.

          So I present to you two things:

          First up, an article about the fact that on said album they (Jay-Z and Kanye West) committed copyright infringement.

          http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110825/11463715681/jay-z-kanye-accused-infringement-album-they-worked-so-hard-to-stop-leaking.shtml

          Secondly, if you read that article, you’ll notice that DESPITE those EXTRAORDINARY [he says going heavy on the sarcasm, since you don't know the meaning of the word "extraordinary"] CIA like measures taken to ensure piracy didn’t occur, THE ALBUM STILL LEAKED. Yep. You read that correctly. The album was NOT pirated. IT WAS LEAKED!

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Man, I love that you brought that to my attention in the first place, or I’d have never kept up with the news on it and just ignored said update about the album. Which means I’d have passed up an opportunity to throw it right back in your face, and point out that as you like to call pirates thieves and say they need to go to jail and whatnot, what do you say to that? Hmm. In this case, the THIEVES are two huge artists themselves. Perhaps they should be forced to make reparations and perhaps spend a few nights locked up. Fair’s fair and all that. And the law is the law, as you like to point out. If you’re going to crack down on one, you have to crack down on all. Fair’s fair afterall.

        • AnonSucks

          I have a few things I’d like to show you Anon, that are completely irrelevant to this article, because of the last time we discussed something, you decided to throw “evidence” out there about Jay-Z and Kanye West and their CIA like precautions concerning their latest album and misquote people from said article. Which you got called out on, by myself.

          So I present to you two things:

          First up, an article about the fact that on said album they (Jay-Z and Kanye West) committed copyright infringement.

          http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110825/11463715681/jay-z-kanye-accused-infringement-album-they-worked-so-hard-to-stop-leaking.shtml

          Secondly, if you read that article, you’ll notice that DESPITE those EXTRAORDINARY [he says going heavy on the sarcasm, since you don't know the meaning of the word "extraordinary"] CIA like measures taken to ensure piracy didn’t occur, THE ALBUM STILL LEAKED. Yep. You read that correctly. The album was NOT pirated. IT WAS LEAKED!

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Man, I love that you brought that to my attention in the first place, or I’d have never kept up with the news on it and just ignored said update about the album. Which means I’d have passed up an opportunity to throw it right back in your face, and point out that as you like to call pirates thieves and say they need to go to jail and whatnot, what do you say to that? Hmm. In this case, the THIEVES are two huge artists themselves. Perhaps they should be forced to make reparations and perhaps spend a few nights locked up. Fair’s fair and all that. And the law is the law, as you like to point out. If you’re going to crack down on one, you have to crack down on all. Fair’s fair afterall.

        • Anon

          “Ever heard of scalpers?”

          Of course. But the scalpers paid the face value intending to charge more. What did Ali pay the creators for the content he’s offering at a price?

          More pirate mentality. lol You entertain me.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

          “More pirate mentality.”

          Nothing of the sort. Police actually tried to arrest them for years. But I believe NY has relaxed on this as we move more and more into the digital era. And after looking at the profits of all of the companies, the tickets are mere pennies for people at a different pricing point than what PPV offered. There’s little doubt that the people watching this stream were not going to pay for PPV.

          But I guess economics fails you.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

          “More pirate mentality.”

          Nothing of the sort. Police actually tried to arrest them for years. But I believe NY has relaxed on this as we move more and more into the digital era. And after looking at the profits of all of the companies, the tickets are mere pennies for people at a different pricing point than what PPV offered. There’s little doubt that the people watching this stream were not going to pay for PPV.

          But I guess economics fails you.

        • http://twitter.com/MarkGisleson Mark Gisleson

          How exactly would “free” low quality feeds of Broadway plays in any way impact their ticket sales?

          People who can afford B’way tickets would never sit through a crappy internet feed. Hell, they wouldn’t sit through a high quality feed (one camera? you must be kidding!)

          You sound more like a paid troll than someone who’s actually thought about this issue.

      • Not naive

        you must be new here

        Rule 1 of TF (maybe the only one): Dont feed the trolls, they may bite.

  • Anon

    Who cares if he was charging for access or not? He was facilitating infringement, end of story. ICE did their job, one less copy/distribution jerk running free and now we get to watch and see who is next. Get used to it. This only ends when you overthrow all government. lol

  • Mud

    So why is ICE involved? Shouldn’t they be arresting illegals and sending them home?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      The DHS is the private police force of Hollywood. Sad, but copyright enforcement is about protecting old businesses from new upstarts. Regulatory capture indeed.

      • Ven

        DHS is a blanket organization that takes part in fighting all crime that has been in some way connected to another country. Foreign proxies, servers, ISPs, customers, etc. makes it their job to investigate it.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          No. The FBI is the organization that is supposed to take care of that.

  • Harquebus

    The same rule still applies. If you can read a one or a zero, you can write that one or zero.

  • Harquebus

    The same rule still applies. If you can read a one or a zero, you can write that one or zero.

  • Lurkhard

    $6,000 was only probably enough to run the servers or less.
    Without profit.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Bingo. 6K taking in the cost for the servers and bandwidth is BARELY enough to cover those costs.

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