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Record Labels “Correct” Dotcom: Only Way to Stop Piracy is Suing File-Sharers

Last week Kim Dotcom posted a few lines on Twitter detailing his guidelines on how the piracy conundrum might be solved. The Megaupload founder said that offering a great product at a fair price, with the same release date worldwide should do the trick, as long as it’s playable on any device. In response today, the Kiwi version of the RIAA said that they’ve done all that and sadly, since people continue to pirate, the only solution is to sue them.

It was a single (re)Tweet on January 7 echoing the words of dozens of other digital observers this century. The advice from Dotcom was viewed by many as the key to solving a decade-long entertainment industry battle that began with an effort to force pirates offline and back into bricks-and-mortar stores.

But of course, that was their first big error.

When the downloading ‘problem’ first appeared people didn’t want to go back into the stores, they wanted access to media online in the most convenient form possible. Sick of being ripped off by two-track wonder albums padded out with junk at an inflated price, they wanted tomorrow’s world today. If the corporates weren’t going to provide it, they would make their own reality instead.

As soon as it became clear that people weren’t going to shelve their new-found freedoms, the record labels’ initial response wasn’t a creative one. Instead of coming up with a decent offering to tempt consumers back they chose to sue thousands of Americans instead. That campaign is still reviled today and did little to end the problem or win the hearts of consumers.

Of course, what they should’ve done – a full 10 years ago – is outlined in Dotcom’s Tweet.

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Although it’s safe to assume that Dotcom’s comments were largely directed at Hollywood (who still have difficulty with DRM free, day and date releases, and making their product easy to buy), today a rather unexpected party has jumped in on the debate.

RIANZ, the New Zealand version of the RIAA representing the big recording labels, says “the music industry has delivered on all five points suggested by Dotcom.”

On “Create great stuff” RIANZ points out that while “great is obviously subjective” there are tens of millions of tracks now available for legal download. Twenty digital services available in New Zealand makes their product “easy to buy”, which includes the majority of music releases which are “available simultaneously worldwide.”

On the issue of price RIANZ says that “music has never been cheaper to buy or access” which may indeed be true. However, it is often argued that the price of music before the download revolution is hardly a realistic reference point – inflated prices due to restrictive market practices were another thing file-sharing turned upside down.

The final point – “works on any device” – is a reference to DRM and to their credit the recording industry did eventually respond to this big issue. A large proportion of downloaded music these days does tend to be playable on any device.

Nevertheless, while the music industry has finally come round to the needs of consumers with legal digital take-up coming on in leaps and bounds, the piracy bogeyman still exists.

“Despite [addressing all of the points outlined by Dotcom] music piracy continues unabated in New Zealand at one of the highest per capita rates in the western world. It has also grown every year since 2006 which is when iTunes opened for business in New Zealand,” RIANZ told NZHerald.

“Unfortunately it seems the only way to beat piracy is to take legal action against those who deliberately choose to deny songwriters and recording artists their basic human right to make a living from their creativity,” they conclude.

Here we go again……….

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  • Lulz

    Lulz :)

    • Gacek

      Exacly! Expecially when i saw this one:
      “Unfortunately it seems the only way to beat piracy is to take legal action against those who deliberately choose to deny songwriters and recording artists their basic human right to make a living from their creativity,” they conclude.

      Sorry. but artists get a really small share. So they defend their business and profits, not buisness of and rights artists and writers.
      Sorry guys, we all know what you’re up to. Make artists work hard. take cash for their work and give them small bit so they sit silent! by my Dotcom will turn this world upside down. Many independing artists come up lately. Thank yo Promobay. And if artists get 1$ from each 10$ earned on song. They will surely prefer to sell their music for 4$ and get 3$ from it. That’s what you’re afraid of. That’s why Dotcom will make your life miserable (hopefully!).
      Who agrees with me Hand up! (so youtubish :) hehhe)

      • Guest

        And the only way to stop the record label is to kill all their CEO VP and directors.

        • retaliate

          OR.. only support decent artists that need and deserve support. (ie. not the assholes that litigate against fans)

          If it’s from the big labels… fuck them, pirate it if you feel you must but do NOT buy it.

          Instead, look for real artists on SoundCloud, YouTube, BandCamp, etc. – many give their stuff away for free and sell tracks and albums at fair prices with a much greater margin of profit going to the artists than you’d ever find with itunes and spotify. Many independent artists tend to be more expressive, more free to speak their mind, experiment with music more and relay their own personal message rather than the message of an industry.

          Real artists don’t seem to mind you copying their shit as much, they appreciate that not all of their fans are necessarily wealthy. As long as you contribute something when you are able to afford to, most seem to understand and appreciate the promotion anyway. :)

        • Gacek

          Or maybe stop buying from them. It’s WE who give them money, It’s we who give them power. It’s we who decide. and It’s we who can destroy them (by stopping their support) :)

          And that would be some way to “free” USA govt. If there will be no sponsors, there will be more law.

          And if we want to still support artists, so they can develop, we can do it by alternative means such as mega services.

      • Martin from Norway

        Everyone needs money to live. The record company, distributors, artists and everyone else involved in a big project that a new record is. If your point is that people should use illegal file sharing because songwriters only get a small share, that is a stupid thing to say..

        If you can’t afford paying the small amount of money it costs for a single or record, you are either stupid or stingy, or both. So shut the fuck up, and pay.

        • MadAsASnake

          Helps if you comment in a timely fashion…

        • Gg

          haha, stupid isheeple!
          so don’t pay and fuck up

        • Gacek

          My point is not they should use illegal means. My point is artists shouldn’t be robbed of their work. You realise that contracts they sign give all rights to songs to record labels? And that’s they sing, give face, voice and own Nothing. As long as they have contract they have their share, small share. But after contract ends… when they would want to be more indepentent… they are left with no songs and need to start over.

          My point is that people shouldn’t be robbed of their creativity.

          It’s exacly same as piracy. But now we steal from theives, not from artists (or more from thieves less from artists). But that still doesn’t mean I approve if it. I just don’t buy and listen from radio :) It’s enough for me (this is not piracy;) ).

        • retaliate

          Better idea. Download the music and donate to the artists.

          Cut out the asshole that’s fucking the artists and consumers over whilst ensuring the artist is recompensed for their work (even donating 30% of the retail price would mean the artist would get more than they’d get through a legitimate purchase under their contract terms).

  • Fddf

    “their basic human right to make a living from their creativity,”

    there is no such human right.

    • Hogspace

      Absofuckinglutely.
      If you want to make money from you music…
      Sell high fidelity versions of your music on CD with great sleeve artwork. I’ll pay $6 for that.
      Appear at gigs and stadiums, I’ll pay $20 for that.
      Sell me 256vbr digital albums, I’ll still pay $1 for that.

      Try $12 for your CD and $1 PER TRACK and I’ll take it for nothing motherfuckers.

      • TMc51

        Shit, if you like music enough, and want to support the artists, download it, and send them $1 in the mail. Since the record companies get majority of the money, that $1 is probably more than 150x what the artists themselves had earned from the sale of an album.

        • sep332

          Right but then nothing goes to the people who made the artwork on the cover! don’t forget those guys, you don’t want grey boring covers :)

        • bno112300

          @sep332
          But, if you’re just downloading the music, you are not using the cover artist’s services, and should not pay them.

          If you get the album art, I suppose you might as well find out where that person is.

        • Gacek

          Covers are created by graphic designers who work for companies for salary or per work. They get their share anyway. If you buy, or buy not :) They will lose jobs if you do it like it tho :P

        • Play-Mobile

          Better than trying to set your own “speculative fair amount of money”
          (and sound like a cheap person, $1?), it would be more effective
          if studios and/or artists could open an option to receive donations,
          if the problem is the artist needs money to live from their creativity,
          in that way, they can split the money with all of those who deserve it.

          BTW, even if you’re not using the covers,
          money and human resources were used
          to produce that part of album and/or single.

          In the end, if downloading things, from internet, would have never existed,
          one person that can’t afford a product, won’t buy it after all
          and if they don’t have any intention to buy it,
          they’d probably get a copy from friends, acquaintances and/or relatives.

          Thus donations could be an option for them, if not, they can spend time,
          money and influence and keep their war running for several decades.

        • Martin from Norway

          Stupid. Shouldn’t the people that help artists get their music out to as many people as possible, get paid? A big portion of the money goes to the labels, distributors etc. but we need to understand that these people also need to get paid for what they do.

        • Hogspace

          If a good band puts up a website and distributes their music and artwork via torrents, with some included advertising (I’m fine with that) I’ll happily pay/donate voluntarily through their website if I like it. That’s a nice business model. But…. I will not give them money through visa or paypal, cunts the lot of them.
          There is a HUGE opportunity for a proper ethical non discriminating online small payment system ($5 max) that says FUCK YOU to RIAA and governments.

      • Guest

        Artists make little from CDs or digital downloads anyway.
        The labels get 95% of it.
        They make their money from gigs and personal appearances, TV deals if they can get them. I’ve never heard such hypocrisy in my life!

        Artists produce to make money, NOT FOR PRODUCERS TO MAKE MONEY.

        • dondilly

          Agreed, many artists with pre digital era contracts ended up fighting the labels in court before they got a single cent from download royalties. That happened simply because there no explicit reference to downloads in the contracts enabling labels to rip them off.

          The same happened to many artists with the introduction of CDs.

          It was also the root of problems with music used in films. Most artists had included clauses to get a small fee from tv sales. Few if any artists foresaw video sales and rentals which at first enabled the studios (and possibly the labels) to pocket all the profits.

          A copyright law/ruling in the late 80s forced studios to include home video in new rights licenses and to renegotiate existing contracts. That is why many videos of this era had original music replaced as the studios had yet reached settlements with the artists. 2 examples, Airplane and the Blues Brothers.Studios and labels will rip off their creative talent at every opportunity.

          I dont think in many cases artists would object to low prices/free to the consumer, what they really object to is corporations profiteering off the backs of artists with them seeing little or nothing and being handcuffed by a restrictive contract.

      • Guest101

        And you’re all missing the point.
        I’ve read the comments here (most of them I agree with) but the basic fact remains: RIANZ needs to show pirates as the ultimate evil and that they’re willing to pursue them to the ends of the Earth, or they don’t have a job.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Precisely.

          And this is true for all the organizations doing copyright enforcement. If the copyright conflict is ever solved, those people are doomed.

      • cliffa

        As a North American wage slave I pirate because I can’t earn enough money in my economy to house and feed myself and pay for transportation, support my child, taxes, the kid’s extra-curriculars, AND lay out the money it takes to relieve the stress of all that to watch a video. I can’t afford $60 for a game. I can’t afford to lay out $20 just to get IN to a theater to watch a movie. I work 50 hours a week just to have a warm place to sleep. Six bottles of beer costs $15! How much sacrifice is one man expected to make before he’s allowed to decide it’s time to do what I want instead of what I’m told I’m worth? A big ‘ol middle finger out to those who are out of touch with the reality of trying to keep up with society’s demands for more. I just got a paycheck for $1400 and I have $55 left after paying the bills and filling the fridge and gas tank, where is the entertainment dollar and stress relief? I have a 25 year old car, no tv service and a pay as you go cell phone, I am NOT wasteful of resources but the mafiaa wants too damn much and they can choke.

        • Hogspace

          Could be worse, could be in the UK paying £1.33 per litre for petrol. 75% of it taxes. Robbing twats.

        • YoHoHo And A Bottle Of Reality

          No. I’m sorry, but your argument seems to be that because you don’t earn very much the entertainment industry owes you something. That’s bullshit. You pirate because it’s free, it’s there, and at the moment there is not much risk to it, the same as the rest of us.

        • Martin from N

          So because you can’t afford a beer, you have the right to steal it?

        • Pinocchio’s Grandma

          @Martin from Norway

          digital =/= physical

          a beer bottle is physical, a movie/album/game/whatever is not

          digital things can be copied perfectly infinitely

          beer can’t be (yet)

          so the comparison doesn’t work

        • Pinocchio’s Grandma

          which also means that a movie/song/game can’t be stolen, only the physical packaging can be, so the comparison works even less

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H6CRJQGO7L62MCVEMI6EV2JL2A cliffa

          *So because you can’t afford a beer, you have the right to steal it?*

          I think that someone else has already stolen it and copied the recipe. Nice guys finish last.

      • Predator

        Yes, What these idiots should have done is moving everyone to high Def such as DVD Audio or SACD! for the same price as a regular CD. DVD players capable of playing those would have become the standard and downloading an album would have become more time consuming. MP3 already obvious poorer quality (once play on a full sized audio system at least) would have been even more obvious. That would have keep the market for physical audio support open a little bit longer and prepare for the market for bigger audio files with guaranty technical quality. But not these guys are mean and stupid these two most often going together not to mention greedy and now as predicted their business is dying. Now we the customers are really pissed and it does not matter what they do, how many people they rape how many business they sue, how many fascist laws they buy, We are not going to come back and buy their shit again under any form ever. Sorry. I guess they got what they deserve.

    • Guest

      It would be okay, if they would be happy with £10,741.54. Which is what you get after tax, doing 37.5 hours at minimum wage in the UK.

      Somehow they seem to think they should be getting more like £500,000+ a year – if no one wants to pay for their music, they are no longer worth that much – they should resign themselves that making music is infact a low paying job…. which it actually is, for the MAJORITY.

      We’re not going to pay a shelf stacker (sorry boys and girls, keep up the good work though) more than a doctor etc.

      We get bullshit artists complaining now about not making any at all, regarding Jessy J “Documents filed at London’s Companies House for the year ending last August reveal she had a near £20,000 loss.” Yea, thats her “company”, it doesnt include all the bullshit she gets to spend her money on – may I suggest that she cant actually afford the stuff she is buying.

      “Another of her firms, Who You Are Ltd, apparently made just £387.”

      Yea, she needs lots of companies, and they make little profit…mmm, tax avoidance…. tasty.

      What I hope this is doing more is spreading the wealth, I want it to cut into the $50m worth “talyor swifts”, I want them to make less money, more for the little guys, which will mean more little guys(and girls), and more music to pick from, hopefully quality will increase too.

      • Glib

        The Taylor Swifts will always make money. I’ve lived away from my niece for 4 years, where she aged from 8 to 12. Seeing her and he friends this year, ALL they want to listen to is Taylor Swift et al. I mean, its ALL they ALL want to listen to. They have like 6 songs on their music devices. With coverage like that, even just the 12 year olds in the city I lived in (around 1m people) could sustain the Taylor Swifts on a reasonable salary.

        Music for the idiot masses always makes money, because advertising works extremely well on these dumbasses.

    • TheOiulkj

      Lmfao seriously, wtf is going on in their brains?

    • Wordsworth wannabe

      I’m a struggling poet

      Miserable wanderings through my mind
      A door that leads nowhere
      Mushroom surprise from my grandmothers pot
      Leafmold fairies call me to my doom
      Down, down, down, down
      My miserable life ends…

      Right, I’ve created something, now it’s my human right to make a fucking living from it. You must buy my ‘creation’ you must not illegally download it and share it so that others my come to know and appreciate my art. No! you must buy it and lock it away.

      It’s my human fucking right to be paid for this crap!!!

      • OccamsKatana

        *sniff*

        That’s great, man! ^_^ Keep up the great work.

        • 7th_Guest

          Indeed; this Vogon will go far, I can see it already!

        • zarathustra2k1

          Oh freddled gruntbuggly,Thy micturitions are to me,As plurdled gabbleblotchits,On a lurgid bee,That mordiously hath bitled out,Its earted jurtles,Into a rancid festering confectious inner-sphincter. Now the jurpling slayjid agrocrustles,Are slurping hagrilly up the axlegrurts,And living glupules frart and slipulate,Like jowling meated liverslime,Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turling dromes,And hooptiously drangle me,With crinkly bindlewurdles,Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,See if I don’t.

      • rockadayberry

        i can´t support you.you would use the money to buy drugs!

        • Eurofag

          “If you don’t think drugs have done good things for us, then take all of your records, tapes and CD’s and burn them.” Bill Hicks

      • Mary Hinge

        is this available on itunes?

      • Who

        http://constitutionus.com/

        show me were it is written that you have a RIGHT to demand to be paid for you works please.

      • Downloader

        “You must buy my ‘creation’ you must not illegally download it and share it”

        OOPS I copied and pasted it and WILL share it with the world for FREE.

  • Guest

    they’re not ‘done’ ANYTHING of that!
    man.. and they wonder why piracy grows and users deliver content to other users when they sit on they ass and do nothing…

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Actually, they have. But only after alienating the majority of their consumer base.

      iTunes had to ditch DRM but only after almost everyone walked from their service. And if it hadn’t been for them bundling iTunes with every Apple device around they would have had no customers coming back.

      But iTunes is unique in that, like Microsoft, they have another platform they can use to re-launch a thoroughly unpopular service in, with improvements. The majority of media stores does not.

      And most of the media conglomerates have managed to miss every window of opportunity, modifying their model only when it was clear every customer had left in abject loathing. Meaning that unless they manage to lure those customers back, those customers, still harboring a great deal of ill will, are still sitting on TPB out of spite.

      I know that every time I’ve tried a DRM-ridden downloading service, I’ve had to abandon it in disgust. My last run-in with a “digital online vendor” had me spending three days to rid myself of the last remaining scrap of DRM fucking up my computer, cleaning up the registry by hand and picking out malfunctioning system files by hand from a safe flash boot.

      RIANZ are basically saying “But we DID close the barn door after the horse bolted”.

      • MadAsASnake

        Except they just sort of nudged the barn door a bit, while the horse wandered out.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Not really.

          In at least two of the four points what happened was that they got told the horse would bolt, a week later it did, and after spending a year whining about the bolting horse someone went out and closed the door.

      • IHaveNoBalls

        “Meaning that unless they manage to lure those customers back, those customers, still harboring a great deal of ill will, are still sitting on TPB out of spite.”

        I think they know that’s they’ve lost a generation off paying customers. That’s why they’re making all these 3d kids films in the cinemas. They’ve given up on us and have focused on brainwashing the younger generation…

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “They’ve given up on us and have focused on brainwashing the younger generation…”

          Given that the age group of <30 are still the biggest filesharers and that we are the ones all raising the next generation, what are they thinking?

  • Maxx

    They started off good… and then they returned to their usual rhetoric, hence they didn’t learn anything. Oh well. I guess them learning the error of their ways would be a little to much to expect.

  • OldBiddie

    Well it’s worked so well so far, why would they stop now ¬.¬

  • Anonymous

    none so blind as those that don want to see. no one is ever going to convince these morons that their ideas of ‘delivering on all five points’ is totally different to reality. they still price downloads as if there is a physical item being bought as well. that is keeping prices well inflated and not being ‘fair’. not everyone uses itunes but the amount of money charged for a track from there is ridiculous! there is inevitably going to be a decline in store sales, which the industry think is wrong. they want people to continue to by cds and by the same thing as a download, not just once but multiple times for multiple devices. that has always been a real piss-take!! as for the world-wide releasing? never happened and never gonna happen!
    piracy is a product that the industries themselves created by their own stupidity. they ripped consumers off for decades and dont like it now that the consumer has the upper hand. most so-called ‘pirates’ still pay for music and it has been proven in numerous independent studies that those that file-share buy the most. the industries trying to sue every single person or even a dozen people for doing this is really helping their case, i dont think. the genie is out of the bottle. it wont go back. pissing people off is going to eventually REALLY backfire on the industries. trouble is, they wont be satisfied until that day comes!!

  • Rich Rickko

    itunes is not easy to buy, there are stuff all lossless download services.

    I have taken to just using rdio, my sub is all I am prepared to contribute to the music industry for their background noise. If its not streamable on rdio then stuff it, cant be bothered going and hunting it out.

    I had in the past painstainly downloaded and curated a massive lossy and lossless collection, building up a massive buffer on what. Cant be bothered now.

    The music industry needs to learn that their product is a smaller and smaller part of peoples lives. Kids 20 years younger than me have nothing musicwise, I had amassed quite a large collection of now obsolete polycarbonate discs by the time I was 18. What I see now is a handful of itunes/whatever purchases, piles of copied stuff and most of it is ignored as gaming takes up far too much time to worry about music.

    • 7th_Guest

      The two pastimes/artforms aren’t exactly incompatible with each other, you know, Rich. Try looking around in one of the various online communities for some good VGM album recommendations, then tell me that gaming means ppl ignore (great) music.

      PS: Here’s one of this year’s Grammy nominated entries. Notice anything unusual about its origins?

  • Guest

    I get the feeling Kim’s tweet was directed more at the movie industry.

  • Hamish Cook

    I think the music industry has done pretty well actually. Of course we had to drag them kicking and screaming through a decade of snail paced improvement. I don’t bother pirating music anymore. Almost everything I want to listen to is on Spotify, and I don’t mind paying iTunes prices for the few things that aren’t.

    Movies on the other hand… well I guess its going to be another decade. Netflix is not all that far off if you’re in a supported country (I’m not). We’re still a long way from unlimited subscription based Blu-Ray quality DRM free movie and TV downloads.

  • tashi

    Well, I can say that since I can get pretty much any mp3 off of amazon for around a buck, I haven’t downloaded any more tracks illegally. With one exception: I love electronic music, and sometimes there are 10 remixes of the same track and I want the one version that I really like. Now… if all 10 are available as a bundle for 3 bucks or so, I’ll go for that. But from the 30 second snippets that they allow you to hear for free it’s impossible to tell which one I liked exactly. So if there’s no offer, I’m not going to pay 10 bucks for basically the same song. Then I’ll go download from somewhere else and usually I’m too lazy to go back, then.

  • FPRobber

    I kind of agree with both sides. I’m getting great music at a great price through Spotify and it stopped me from pirating music completely. I can’t think of anything the music industry could do to make it even easier to pay for music. That’s where I start disagreeing with RIANZ, suing potential customers makes them 100%-not-customers.

    • Jerry Levinbloomstein

      I don’t care how cheap it is.. nothing can compete with FREE and I will never pay for music again.

      Small revenge for being fucked over for 2 decades when the labels controlled everything.

      Fuck em all. Free music is here to stay.

      • Andrew me

        Artists could be making an absolute fortune compared to what they are making now if only they had to use the free model and look for profits elsewhere, they have this odd perception that only they can produce good music and it has some sort of value , it does not, and the sooner they realsie this and start working with the new free models they will be making much more than they ever were.
        But the music industry has their ears and the lies and propaganda they spew is all that is heard, but things are changing, i suspect Dotcom with his new system will destroy them as more and more websites start using the same or similar business models.

      • Guest

        yea man! that’s the spirit
        I salute you

  • Litesp33d

    This is the problem they don’t get. Misunderstanding that if someone downloads something for free it means a lost sale. It does not. Just because I get something for free does not mean, at anytime, I would have purchased it otherwise.

    However, some bastard lawyer has gone into a record/video/game label and said look at all this lost business. These people are ripping you off. And without thinking about it out come the sledgehammers to crack a tiny nut AND make the lawyers a shedload of money in the process, don’t forget. The market has changed and dinosaurs are trying to put the Genie back in the bottle instead of using the power of the Genie.

    Disney thought this when the VCR came out. ‘It will kill our business’ Until some genius said put the vids in a pretty box and people will collect them to watch at their leisure. Bingo – a new multi multi million dollar revenue stream.

    When something cost $20 to deliver to your home you could charge $25 dollars for it. Now it costs nothing to distribute do you wonder why people will not pay for its distribution. If a terrific show is launched in the World but not in my country why should I have to wait at someone else’s convenience to decide when, or if, I should (ever) see it?

  • Divingdutchman

    Considering that most musicians make most of their money from concerts and paid gigs not from royalties.
    The music industry is real concern is being made irrelevant.

    • Andrew me

      The sale of 1 t-shirt with a profit of say £5 would equal the same amount of profit they would be making from the sale of 71.5 albums, seriously this is a huge profit margin on merchandise.

      • SoundnuoS

        Problem being not very many people actually want those t-shirts.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      That hasn’t changed since the days when being recruited by a “label” involved allusions to what a pity it would be if those talented fingers were all to break mysteriously.

  • MadAsASnake

    Not sure what RIANZ are smoking today. They are basically a fully paid up bastard child of the RIAA and simply spin their agenda. Last I remember they were telling people that if they wanted to listen to music in their cars they should buy additional pre-recorded cassettes and not tape the records they already had. Hasn’t changed. They still want too much for music. It is not just the cost-down from not having to produce physical media, but the “rights” that they give are much lower. They need to reprice with that in mind. I think about 10% of CD price is about right.

    Well, they are wrong. I’m pretty sure that NZ is not that much different from the UK. Until they get rid of DRM and produce a genuine widely accepted high fidelity format, they won’t get close.

    My partner has an iPhone 4 and bought some tracks (DRM’d) through iTunes. The phone now won’t accept any tracks we ripped from our CD collection. I’ve had a word about buying from iTunes (don’t) and will try at some point to sort her phone out. We may loose those DRM’d tracks. As for playing those on another device? Forget it.

    If I download a track – I get none of this crap.

  • Sdfsd

    it is 19th January in new zealand then why aren’t registrations open

    • KDCisDaBomb

      It’s opening on the 19th Jan in America LOL

  • Who

    “Record Labels “Correct” Dotcom: Only Way to Stop Piracy is Suing File-Sharers”

    KEEP PUSHING

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKX00OKfdFM&list=FLZehVWSPOf0z-_wN9Wzr-IQ&index=1

  • Sdfsd

    it is 19th January in new zealand then why aren’t registrations open

    PLEASE SOME ONE ANSWER

    • cgimusic

      Maybe they aren’t working on that timezone. It does say “change the world” not “change New Zealand”.

    • IndiaGrt

      its 19th jan GMT time not newzeland time
      its 20th janNZDT time in newzeland ………… lol

    • aaaaaaa

      The launch will actually be the anniversary of the FBI raid, down to the minute it happened.

  • MoreBS

    0.99 Whatever’s is not a fair price for a track. It’s what they consider a fair price from the days when CD’s were 12.99 or 15.99 Whatever’s and had all the distribution fees that involved.

    • Andrew me

      If you take the price of an album and the amount of tracks and the profit an artist makes and convert it to online pricing an artist would be making the same amount of profit as they were before the internet revolution if they charged .005cents a track. Let them double their profits and charge 1cent.

      Seriously 1 cent a track would be double what they were making before, do the maths , they make approx 7 cents per album sold, works out to them making approx 0.005cents per song, actually rounded up to that as they make a bit less but i want to be generous to them.

      Now why would anyone be paying more than that. Yes that does not include cost of managers and publishing companies, but even then doubling their profit to 2 cents a track should cover that, if not then they are overpaying the middlemen, in fact they would be paying the middlemen more than they are taking which in any other industry would be laughed out of the room.

      So we can all agree that even 2 cents a track is way way more than they were making previously, why on earth are music tracks 99cents each, how do they even come close to justifying that price. Just crazy and the reason piracy will continue and grow much faster than they can sue.

      • Guest

        Where do you get your base level “before the internet revolution” figures from Andrew?

        • Shitposter

          Your mom

        • Eurofag

          Sorry about that. I was trying to be funny but I’ve just realized I’ve made a complete prick of myself.

  • Ophelia Millais

    Dotcom was talking about piracy, not just music piracy. “Works on any device” is likely more about video, which has a number of completely artificial restrictions in place:

    · HDCP, which prevents non-HDCP devices from being anywhere in the chain.
    · PAL/NTSC format restrictions, which only matters for analog CRTs, yet is still enforced by digital disc players and TVs, even ones that can play the other format via DLNA or a USB stick.
    · DVD/BD region codes, and the limitation on switching a player’s region.
    · Encryption of commercial DVD & BD content, preventing place- and format-shifting.
    · Laws forbidding circumvention of these restrictions.

    • MadAsASnake

      Applies equally to DRM infested music downloads. Get something on you iPod then try to play it, say, your Android phone. Good luck.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Oh, there are ways to get something for the iPad and playing it on Android.

        The other way around though, not so much. Unless you enable root (jailbreak) on the iDevice and install a third-party open-source app which overrides the OS’s default “Only run Apple-approved media here” setting.

        Small wonder Android is becoming more and more popular. Smartphones for every price range and no restrictions on what may or may not run? Sold.

        • MadAsASnake

          Probably is. But I don’t want that amount of hassle and grief.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “Probably is. But I don’t want that amount of hassle and grief.”

          open-source apps have their own version of rule 34. If you just mentioned a conversion of apple media was a hassle then some mad coder is already writing a one-click converter. Or there are already dozens of them around.

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

          Rule34 correlary a)If it exists, someone has hacked it.

        • MadAsASnake

          Point is, we have to work it out and fix it. I detest SW that is broken on purpose in this way.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          @MadAsASnake

          “Point is, we have to work it out and fix it. I detest SW that is broken on purpose in this way.”

          Now THAT, Good Sir, is a point.

          No one would ever knowingly purchase a car if it had been cleverly designed to underperform. Or, for that matter, any other item.

          And the only reason iTunes can survive it is because Steve Jobs was a genius. Without him, I’m predicting bad days ahead for Apple. Last time they did without him they nearly went bankrupt and had to call on Microsoft for favors.

  • Olol

    and when they did even one thing from what he write lulz.

  • cgimusic

    No one cares that piracy has grown. Of course it has bloody grown. Internet speeds are getting faster and content is more available. Interesting how they don’t mention whether or not (I suspect the latter) their sales have fallen.

  • Logan B

    I’ll admit that I have pirated music, videos and games in the past, but I pay for music, videos and games that I enjoy.

    In the case of a Thephany’s Majoras Mask Remixed soundtrack, I paid $1.50 for it. It may not seem like much, but the fact that the artist was giving it away for free makes a lot of difference. I bought Amnesia: Dark Descent with a Humble Indie Bundle, and when I told (then) schoolmates that were playing the game at the time, they replied “You BOUGHT it?”

    I buy quality, not quantity.

  • Alex 0

    iTunes? That should be the answer to the music you can play without restrictions on any device? They must be kidding! MP3 or flac, that is the answer. But there really isn’t too much shops offering this. And if so, the portfolio is not very wide. Hawk.

  • icec0ld

    “Unfortunately it seems the only way to beat piracy is to take legal action against those who deliberately choose to deny songwriters and recording artists their basic human right to make a living from their creativity”

    Considering, RIANZ has had exactly: Zero successful court cases I find this claim somewhat lacking in any experience they may claim to have.

    Also, the claim that suing pirates works is also somewhat dubious world wide, where it seems to have had a near exact opposite effect.

  • Chuck Norris

    1 Stop Making Shit Music 2 Stop Ripping Off Consumers 3 Stop Bitching & Whining About Loss Of Revenue 4 Make Better Music 5 Stop Making The Music Market A 14 Year Old Exclusive Music Market

  • Bob65536

    1 Create great stuff
    “Great” is obviously subjective but with legal digital services offering tens of millions of music tracks there’s surely something for everyone out there.
    That’s a fair point. Even if you don’t like today’s top artists there is plenty of other music out there.
    2 Make it easy to buy
    New Zealanders have access to 20 legal digital music services, not only for buying but for on-demand and curated playback. The world leading brands in each category i-tunes, Spotify and Pandora are open for business in New Zealand.
    First I would like to point out that iTunes, Spotify, and Pandora are quite successful. In point one I agreed that there is something for everyone, but there are still gaps in online availability especially in certain categories.
    3 Same day worldwide release
    The overwhelming majority of newly released music is available simultaneously worldwide.
    Some online services may not have access to the music due to geographic restrictions. This is more of a problem with movies than it is with music though.
    4 Fair price
    Music has never been cheaper to buy or access. Some on-demand services even have a totally free option. Tracks from albums are can be purchased individually, often for under $2. Premium on-demand services are as little as $3 per week.
    Free services are quite popular. Free services have other restrictions and don’t meet the needs of everyone though.

    Monthly fee services are $3 per week which comes to more than $12 per month. Granted these services are not available in New Zealand, but Netflix and Hulu have slightly lower monthly rates and provide content that costs far more to produce.

    Purchasing individual tracks at $2 each is pretty stiff. A track averages 4 mins long. A movie averages 90 mins. If you do the math 90 mins of music would cost $45. Granted you are going to listen to those tracks more times than you will watch the movie, but again the movie costs far more to produce.
    5 Works on any device
    Tracks and albums purchased from legal digital download services are DRM – free and all are usable across multiple devices using Android and iOS operating systems – i.e. the overwhelming majority of devices in the marketplace. Likewise on-demand services all have apps for multiple platforms and devices.
    “Works on any device” encompasses more than works on PC, Android, and iOS today. It means:
    1. You don’t need an always on internet connection.
    2. Does not use proprietary technology to restrict usage.
    3. Can be copied for backup purposes.
    4. Can be used with technology 15 years from now, assuming reasonable circumstances.
    Despite this music piracy continues unabated in New Zealand at one of the highest per capita rates in the western world. It has also grown every year since 2006 which is when iTunes opened for business in New Zealand.
    Fairly analyze the rate of piracy over time. Fairly analyze how piracy affects the music business. Then quantify the uncertainty.
    Unfortunately it seems the only way to beat piracy is to take legal action against those who deliberately choose to deny songwriters and recording artists their basic human right to make a living from their creativity.
    No matter how you feel about piracy from a moral stand point, from a practical stand point legal action cannot beat piracy. The internet has made information infinitely easier to transmit. Its completely impractical to try to restrict certain types of information on the internet. You can have limited successes, but its an endless cat and mouse game and the information just gets more complex over time. Actually its more like a dwarf mouse chasing an african elephant.

    Even if you follow all five steps to the letter piracy won’t be eliminated. That type of piracy does not result in lost sales though. That piracy comes from getting something for nothing. I do believe that following the five steps will allow artists to make a fair profit from their products.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      ^ This.

      “No matter how you feel about piracy from a moral stand point, from a practical stand point legal action cannot beat piracy. The internet has made information infinitely easier to transmit. Its completely impractical to try to restrict certain types of information on the internet. You can have limited successes, but its an endless cat and mouse game and the information just gets more complex over time. Actually its more like a dwarf mouse chasing an african elephant.”

      Not only legal action. The most common response of ANY entertainment afficionado is as predictable as it is ancient – the urge to share the experience with someone else. Sharing information we found interesting is so ingrained in human society trying to remove that urge is like trying to abolish greed.

      Which is why I usually say that trying to implement a world where copyright violation isn’t widespread is like implementing working communism. Not while human beings are human.

      Rather than the dwarf/elephant metaphor I’d say it’s like an army of toddlers with shovels trying to protect a sand castle from the rising tide.

      • Glib

        I very much enjoy the image of an army of toddlers with shovels; the carnage would be immense.

    • foff

      I agree with some of what you said but 20 legal services is a joke. How does 20 download sites compare with millions of record stores in the day? There really ought to be millions of legal download sites for music. Only then would there be competition. Since a download site does not require a middleman then the artist should only get the 5% they are getting which means on a $15 album they are due about $.75 or .075 per track if there are 10 tracks. That is the fair price and that is what the market might pay.

  • Nicola morelli

    not really ive been buying full albums off of amazon for 99 cents a song and thats well worth it and i havent paid over 15 bucks a cd any cd thats under 20 bucks is worth it in my opinion anything 20 and over is crap some people are just too cheap to buy shit because free is better than paying whatever charge it is some people need to fork out the bread for the artists if it’s worth it even though they may never see if the more the wheel gets greased the better it runs…

  • Dontlietome

    RIAA guy is a liar, they neve did a Fair price… never !!! LIAR ..thats why i dont buy a single music or movie since 1980

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    The worse problem is that no matter what incremental progress consumers have extracted from the Copyright monopolies so reluctantly over the last 20 Years (at so much pain), if Copyright Distributors can retain, even the slightest monopoly control over the distribution channels, Cutstomers will spend the next 1,000 Years buried ten-fold under reborn old abuses.

    It’s easy to think that our biggest threat from the Copyright Monopolies rests in the immediate financial (think PayPal), prosecutorial (think MegaUpload), and political/legal (think PIPA, SOPA, etc) repression that is vested upon us today; but, no, the biggest threat that we face from the Copyright monopolies is if they were to adapt more effectively to their actual (rather than imagined) challenges with talants that we thus far have seen no evidence they possess.

    Subtlety: If they had a more subtle understanding of their adversaries, they wouldn’t have been so quick to write off their criticisms and challenges. They would have incorporated more; and, rejected less.

    Patience: If their tactical responses were better informed by patience, there never would have been so many excesses and abuses. Their practices would NOT have been producing ten times the enemies that they suppress.

    Strategic Vision: If their past choices had been minimally strategic, they NEVER would have allowed themselves to have become publicly identified with naked legislative assaults on the Constitutional Rights of Individual Citizens (as in PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, CISPA, and TPP); they would have Never allowed themselves to be turned into the Public face of fatally flawed extra-legal Administrative repressions of whole National Constituencies of Citizens as in Six Strikes in the United States and HADOPPI in France; they would have never entered a WAR against their Customers; and, above all, they would have NEVER been put in a position of open WAR against Democratic Citizens.

    Moral Vision: If they had ANY effective Moral Vision, they would have sussessfully and Timely addressed their weakest flaw: LEGITIMACY.

    They would have created and presented and distinguished a fully vetted and defensible moral basis for a Modern Version of Copyrigjht that could be Publicly explained and supported in ANY National Forum. Instead, they merely adopted the nineteenth century privileges of Perpetual Monopoly Copyright for modernity, without the slightest preconception that those Values would be rejected outright as a MORAL proposition by today’s Democratic Citizens.

    They have Failed in all these things.

    Inevitably!

    Why?

    Because they are NOT Really Human!

    Because they are NOT REALLY Human, they have none of our real weakness.

    Because they are NOT REALLY Human they have none of our real strengths.

    • Anon

      yawn.
      That’s nice.
      Now go clean up your room.

      • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

        Ad Hominim Attack…. Very irrelevant!… Not responsive!…..

        Not intelligent! Not respectful.

        Respectfully submit that your response proves my point.

        If you knew me personally, you would respond differently.

        • Anon

          If i knew you personally id probably shoot myself in the face after about 10 mins of you droning on. If you knew me personally.you would respond differently,i have a set of skills etc etc…zzzzzzz.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

      I don’t know what you’re talking about re “not really human,” but otherwise yes.

  • surprised

    odd, i live in new zealand and theres been no commercials or advertising of these services (except itunes) never even knew they existed here.

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      Wonder why?

  • Dlovin123

    Umm.. I don’t believe music needs to be discussed in relation to piracy at all. Just about every music artist posts their hits for FREE on YOUTUBE to listen too all day long…

    Since most music content is already available for FREE on a PUBLIC section of the internet, I don’t see how somebody downloading one mp3 track of your music would cause you ANY financial harm.

    Now… Movies and Video games on the other hand… illegal downloads can cause financial harm… but music? Nope.

  • http://twitter.com/dniq dniq

    The problem with their argument is that majority of the money from music sales go to the labels, not to the artists. I have no problem paying to the artists. I have a problem with fat-belly leeches that suck blood out of the artists.

    There are always losses in ANY kind of production. When food is made – a large part of it goes to garbage for various reasons. When electronics are made – a large part does not get past quality control, and then not a small part gets lost (damaged or whatever) during transportation or storage, etc.

    When a lightbulb is on – a large part of electricity is being wasted to produce heat, not light.

    It’s the nature of things. You always lose some part of what you make.

  • Silversurfer Surfer

    lmfao kettel back comes too mind

    the riaa/mpaa have been warm for yrs the bussness model Dont work proof off that is the song writes wages the riaa/mpaa takes MOST of it
    thats with out likes off blockbuster and hmv are closing due to high price produts
    soo before thay comment on other ppl views
    DONT THROW STONES IN A GLASS HOUSE

  • JordanKratz

    MAFIAA SHIT
    1.Create Good Music………….like your Sold-Out Traitor Artists and your Manufactured Pop Farts, or the highly compressed & no dynamic range garbage.
    2.Make It Easy To Buy………………Sure we got tons of DRM and we will charge you a bunch of money and we will give the Artists a few pennies per song.
    3.Same Day Release is something the MAFIAA will never do but they will understand it and do this for maximum profit.
    4.Fair Price……………..NOT !!! And you Rip off your Artists as well
    5.Plays on any device……………….NOT.And to play with your stuff means playing with your lame DRM.
    6.We Rip Off Our Artists……………This is a fact we all know.Yet people will still sign their John Doe on your filthy Contracts.
    7.Rip Off Your Investors…………….Due to your shady accounting you will even steal from your investors.Hope they wise up to your Tactics and invest their money elsewhere.
    8.You Rip Off Your Crews…………………How many times are we going to read about this Crew Member suing you because you tried to pull a fast one on your hired help.
    9.With all the knowledge we got of your shady criminal organization we need to continue our War Against MAFIAA !
    Have A Good Day MAFIAA Scum !!! Soon the World will be using a mop to clean you up.

  • Skweets

    “Unfortunately it seems the only way to beat piracy is to take legal action against those who deliberately choose to deny songwriters and recording artists their basic human right to make a living from their creativity,” they conclude.

    So realistically “those who deliberately choose to deny songwriters and recording artists their basic human right to make a living from their creativity” are the RIAATARD’s & everyone should be taking legal action against the RIAATARD’s for not giving the songwriters & recording artists their basic human right to make a living from their creativity as they get 98% of the revenue from songwriters & recording artists work.

    Makes perfect sense to me, lets lobby against them everyone to get the songwriters and recording artists their basic human right to make a “DECENT” living from their creativity.

  • Guest

    The only way to beat piracy is to sue pirates?

    Holy fucking shit, RIANZ must have started living under a rock during the year 1998.

    Hint: suing pirates is the guaranteed surefire way to not stop piracy in any way, at all.

  • tigerkarp

    Different story in sweden, record companies up 14%
    goo.gl/R7oSU

  • renob

    The late Eric Wright (Eazy-E) was once in a radio show argument with the newly found DPG (Dogg Pound Gangstas) back in the early 90′s. Daz and Kurrupt of DPG were boasting about how they sold a million records and Eazy-E replied that’s nice, but did you make a million dollars?

    No. They didn’t make $1mil. If you can’t make even $1 for each album sold, you’re being pimped and played by the industry. Common story that’s been happening for decades.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwf2mSNSFGQ

    “Let Me Go, Let Me Fly” – Krayzie Bone

    “…Hey for 15 years I’ve been workin. I still can’t seem to meet these ends; this aint workin. I’m hurtin while everybody keep eatin off mine. I’m really not certain it’s worth my time. Making music is suppose to make you feel good, but with all the politics it’s more a burdon. It’s what you never see behind the curtains. Record executives just like politicians and chomp at the game. When you select them and elect them, you become slaves. They try to dictate my days and don’t pay. It’s crazy that the paper don’t weigh like my faith. They really must think I’m slow, but I know they’re all snakes. I can’t take it here no more. Let me go to fly free…”

    That, to me, says a lot.

  • guess

    Maybe people don’t buy your shit music because it’s not good? Or maybe the history of suing people has forced people to fileshare?

  • Jimbo

    ‘ the RIAA said that they’ve done all that and sadly, since people continue to pirate, the only solution is to sue them.’

    i would have thought the solution was to stop shoving your head in the sand or up your arse and find out what still needs to be changed, rather than continue down the ‘suing is the only solution for us (to make more money, because most of our releases are shit and not worth buying!)’

    whoever the person was that released that RIANZ statement is a total prick! what they have tried is nothing to what Dotcom has suggested, but then sense isn’t something the industries are particularly well known for having, let alone using!!

  • bobmail

    “Megaupload founder said that offering a great product at a fair price, with the same release date worldwide should do the trick”

    Generally this is the same line most pirates put forward. But when asked to put a dollar figure on that “fair price”, they expect music for pennies and movies for about $1.

    It’s another great piece of offensive play from Kim, proving once again that he is too stupid to just shut up.

    • Anyone

      most movies that come out on DVD/Bluray have already made back their budget in the cinema
      why should I pay more than $1 for that? just so some rich fucks can get even richer?

      as for music, pennies for an album is the right amount, because that is what the artists are getting
      the remaining money is soaked up by the industry for no benefit whatsoever, why should those rich fucks be supported?

    • Christopher Kidwell

      Missing that cable TV offers music, movie and TV shows. Why should I pay a second or even third time for a DVD version?

      I am just doing legal time shifting by downloading those things online when you take into account that I have a cable TV subscription. The MAFIAA can come after me…. and I will be glad to drag their butts into court, acting as my own defense, and get them slapped down.

    • utuxia

      I only paid $1 to rent a movie at the video store. Why would you expect to pay more for a digital copy online?

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

      I’ve mentioned this to you before, but apparently you’re either dense or deliberately obtuse.

      It’s not that a dollar is the most reasonable price. It’s that as you lower prices, demand raises. You can reap in much higher profits by offering a product for far below the cost of production, especially when it happens to be a product that cna be reproduced infinitely, like software or media. This has been proven time and again.
      Valve managed to compete in Russia, where piracy makes the american filesharers look curiously interested by comparison. There should be in theory no market whatsoever when piracy is so rampant, yet the lower the prices were dropped on Steam the higher the sales climbed. Even offering products for free increased profits in other areas.

      So, no, it’s not that we expect a price of pennies to dollars, it’s that we understand basic economics, something that seems to be forever beyond you and your ilk’s grasp, and that we understand that when you’re competing with free, you’re not in control of the market enough to insist on whatever inflated price points you were able to get away with 20 years ago.

      This has been said again and again. right or wrong, the rights of distribution have been taken away forever from the content industry, and they can complain about it, or they can accept it as a fact of doing business today and learn how to compete all over again.

  • Zzz

    “RIANZ, the New Zealand version of the RIAA representing the big recording labels, says “the music industry has delivered on all five points suggested by Dotcom.””

    So I no longer have to hop on iTS Japan and import their iTunes prepaid cards to buy Jpop?

    • MadAsASnake

      If the answer to that question is “Yes!”, then, well done. RIANZ are full of crap. Wonder if they cleared this little butt-fart with the RIAA first.

    • Huesto

      LOL! JPop is garbage.

  • Bubanee

    Artists make fuck all from CD’s and once they realize this. they can start thinking about, that free music is the key for promoting for their concerts, shirts, tv appearences.. i’m sure most artists don’t give a fuck about music piracy since they don’t make anything from CD sals anyway……

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

    Seriously? I threw out Neflix for not working on a slow connection, not working with Linux, not downloading to my hard drive, and not having the new shows I want. Netflix is the best they have. And correct pricing is about 30 dollars a month for all media, movies, TV, music. I HAVE all Dotcom’s bullet points. When it’s LEGAL, then I’ll pay.

    • utuxia

      Couldn’t agree more. As long as I get a file that isn’t proprietary format, and I get all access for a low monthly fee. I’m in. Would be a lot easier than all this torrent headache, which is still better than the alternative.

  • NewClear

    Dotcom’s business idea is the right one. Valve has already incorporated it (to some extent) with their steam platform. Because of their affordability and ease of use, I have literally bought from them games which I already pirated! The RIAA just doesn’t get it. If they claim they’ve “already tried” I can guarantee you their either lying, too oblivious to do it right, or haven’t even tried. Their greed just makes them much rather continue their campaign of tyranny by price fixing music sales, suing their own consumers and lobbying for new rules and laws to ruin innovation and freedom. As some not so famous author once put it:

    “The chimpanzee has stuck his hand into a hole in the ground, filled with fruit. Nearby is a tree, containing more fresh and delicious fruit. Unfortunately, he simply does not possess the logical capability to let go of the fruit (which will allow him to take his hand out of the hole) and climb the tree, where his heart’s desire may be quenched.”

  • Taishou

    For those saying that the legal music stores are doing well… I beg to differ. The problem of availability from country to country is always there and it’s a huge encourage for piracy. Want an example? A few days ago I bought some books at Amazon and for the purchase I just got a mail with $5 credit for music (lol, it’s not much, but that’s not the point). As I kept reading… guess what I found?

    “Amazon MP3 music is available to customers located in and with billing addresses in the United States”.

    The day I get albums in FLAC + quality scans of the booklet/cover/back cover + worldwide prices and availability, I’m in. But so far, so pirate.

  • salvagesalvage

    Unfortunately it seems the only way to beat piracy?

    Um.

    So you’ve beaten it then have you?

    I look forward to the day when I hear a great song, go to the artist’s website, download the song, give them a couple of bucks via Paypal, drop on my iPod and go while the RIAA and other idiots starve to death because they’re too fucking stupid to figure out how to make money off of the Internet except by suing people for using it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rayraynz Ray Taylor

    This makes me lol

    I live in NZ and the only decent music service avaliable is itunes. For which you need an ipod. I dont want an ipod. I only listen to music in the car, and i do that through a usb thumb drive plugged in the front of the stereo head unit.

    Itunes also uses too much ram and is a horrible design of interface.

    I would happily pay a nz $120 yearly fee to download any music i like from any artist that RIANZ represents. So long as i can get it from any source – eg. pirate bay, itunes, etc.

    I dont spend money on cd’s because i dont like them. I dont care about cover art or buying full albums because i only like one song of the lot.

    $10 per month is more than i would spend on cd’s if digital download was not avaliable.

    • Anyone

      you can use itunes without an ipod

      however it is a piece of shit software, extremely laggy and infuriating
      I wouldn’t use it to download songs for free, much less pay for them

  • xpmule

    Good job on this story.

  • Anonymisty

    “songwriters and recording artists their basic human right to make a living from their creativity”

    Yeah because 1 – 6% of the revenue is enough to sustain a person. These scumbags actually think that they are doing artists like myself a favor by giving my peers such a raw deal? It’s robbery.

  • Whatever

    “5.Plays on any device”

    They might actually succeed in this by no devices being available anymore without DRM in future. That’s why one point that Kim Dotcom forgot is:

    6.Backup anywhere

    This one is also in Dotcom’s interest as no backup is no need for cyberlockers.

  • Gae

    The problem is that the music industry took so long to get to where it is today that piracy was already the peoples preferred choice.

  • torrent freakster

    iTunes is a very bad example. It’s a horrible program and since it is from apple it is also very anti-consumer. Consumers do not have any rights at all. Apple could decide to remove some music and the consumers would lose access and no legal path to take unless they are willing to buy the music yet again from another service.

    Basically iTunes is the music version of Steam.

    If you use iTunes or Steam, remember to backup, backup, backup. And pray to the universe that the backup will actually work when the time comes. Bitterly thinking of my steam backuped games that didn’t function at all.

    • Ophelia Millais

      It’s true; the gatekeepers are making access to content increasingly dependent on constant broadband networking, the surrendering of private information, tracking you all over the web, and receipt of ongoing subscription payments. And then one day it just disappears.

      It’s fine and good that they have the opportunity to profit, as many (most?) people don’t mind paying for convenience and aren’t interested in long-term access to content. But the rest of us recognize that their exclusive rights are the tragedy of copyright: because even noncommercial use is prohibited by default, everything becomes ephemeral, creativity experiences a chilling effect, and nothing enters the public domain, at least not until it is of little use. Everyone thinks every turd they poop out is a priceless lottery ticket, something to hold for ransom in perpetuity, even though the reality is that almost nothing anyone creates is economically viable for more than a couple years, tops. What good is economic enrichment when we end up culturally impoverished?

      Exceptions in copyright law allow formal/institutional libraries to archive and provide public access to works, but even they are subjected to many restrictions, and are constantly under legal threat by the media industries.

      The professional archivists and librarians are unsympathetic; they’re on the side of the public. Gene DeAnna, head of Recorded Sound Division, Library of Congress: “It seems to me not to have worked, taking all this century’s sound recordings off of our soundscape.” Loren Schoenberg, Director of National Jazz Museum: “My goal is to have all of it, every last second of it, available on the Internet. If it was up to me, I’d just throw it on the Internet, let everybody sue each other and happy new year. But you can’t do that, because you’re dealing with [musicians'] estates, labels, record companies and publishers.”

      What are we, the public, to do? The ideal way forward, as I see it, would be to compromise, to reform copyright in ways that benefit the public. Allow noncommercial use, surrender orphan works to the public domain, limit commercial copyright to only a few years.

      But like hell if that’s going to happen. The only solution is to do what you know is right, regardless of the law. Call it protest or civil disobedience if you want. Just do whatever you can to preserve our culture and make use of it, even if that means just absorbing as much of it as you can. That means creating and sharing our own libraries, being our own archivists and librarians. Acquire, curate, backup, share, share, share.

      If you find something online that you want to be able to access in the future, don’t just bookmark it; save a copy of it. If that means infringing copyright, circumventing DRM, or doing stream capture, so be it. You just can’t trust the content owners to take care of their assets or keep it available in some form or other for time eternal.

      I make backups of everything. Backups don’t last forever, though. Hard drives can die at any moment. CD-Rs I made over 10 years ago are starting to have corrupt spots in the data. So I just keep the cycle going, keep the data alive…I check in on it now and then, give it new accommodations, take it for a walk around the neighborhood…

  • torrent freakster

    ““Despite [addressing all of the points outlined by Dotcom] music piracy continues unabated in New Zealand at one of the highest per capita rates in the western world. It has also grown every year since 2006 which is when iTunes opened for business in New Zealand,” RIANZ told NZHerald.”

    If they had done the right thing from the start instead of grasping on with their cold dead fingers on the monopoly and anti-consumers crap. It would have not looked the same today.

    But of course a monopoly do tend to become cancerous, evil and greedy.

    BTW: iTunes have racial country blocking (geo-blocking). An artificial limitation.

    New Zealand and Australia tend to feel that quite often when it comes to tv series.

    The other side is ads. Take hulu.com
    15-30 second ads every 5 minutes.
    Makes it unwatchable and destroys the immersion, etc.

    Just look at google. Google went from a user friendly search engine to a monopoly of censored and manipulated search results. That tracks users without any way of opting out in a stable way.

    All search results are redirects so google can track what results you click on. Also slowing down the navigation by a lot.

    Moral of the story: Act greedy and it will sooner or later come and bite you in the ass.

    Torrent sites for tv series instead of hulu which is also use racial geo-blocking.

    Torrent sites for movies since ads destroy the movies too even when you have paid for the content !

    Talk about shooting themselves in the foot.

    Ads, spying, malware acting software (iTunes), artificial limitation like geo-blocking and time delays. Prioritizing countries like america before all other countries during release of content.
    Price fixing based on area code, country and currency used used (euro, pounds, dollars)

    Why the frack do the Europeans have to pay more when we pay in euro instead of dollars ?!

    That is racial unfair treatment.

    And they have the arrogance to ask why people still download the free version ?!

    How about you start treating consumers fairly and with respect.
    No matter where they are or who they are?

    • Whatever

      I was tempted for a brief moment by an online space game (even forgot the name now. Based in Iceland, says enough) but except for lack of my time they would also have inflated prices for Europe of 1 euro for every 1 dollar.

      This was unacceptable so any temptation disappeared quickly.

      (The real exchange rate was 1.35 dollars for 1 euro at that time)

    • brudda

      “Why the frack do the Europeans have to pay more when we pay in euro instead of dollars ?!”

      I don’t know if you’ve noticed lately, but the Euro is broken and nobody wants that currency. It’s all about supply and demand. Sooner than later, the Euro will be worth as much as a Confederate dollar after the Civil War.

  • Vetl

    Well, if they will allow returns of any digital media bought within 30 days or 15 days as for any other products that you buy , sure there wouldn’t be piracy lol because I could return all the useless crap that doesn’t worth a penny.

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