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The Privatization of Copyright Lawmaking

Copyright law strikes a balance between private rights and public interests. Not everyone likes the balance the law sets. Copyright owners complain that it does not adequately protect them from infringement of their works. Critics contend that copyright law tilts too far in favor of the interests of copyright owners and does not safeguard the rights of consumers.

Yet because copyright law is public law—enacted by Congress, enforced where appropriate by the President, and interpreted and applied by the courts—there is plenty of opportunity to monitor the effects of the law and to debate the ways in which it should be reformed.

Increasingly, however, copyright law is being privatized. Its meaning and application are determined not by governmental actors but by private parties, and in particular by deep-pocketed copyright owners. Increasingly, the balance between private rights and public interests is set by private lawmaking.

copyfraudMy new book, Copyfraud and Other Abuses of Intellectual Property Law, shows how copyright owners, unhappy with the scope of protections that Congress has given them, routinely grab more rights than they are entitled to under the law. They do this at the expense of consumers and of the public at large.

One example is the widespread use of contractual provisions that enhance the rights of copyright owners. Many works, especially works delivered in digital form, are made available only to people who agree to give to the provider broader rights of ownership than copyright law itself actually confers.

For instance, the Copyright Act protects the right of fair use but in contracts accompanying digital works consumers waive the right to make any use of the work without the copyright owner’s permission. Copyright law permits consumers to give, lend, or sell their copy of a work after they are done using it. However, terms of use imposed by the supplier prohibit any transfer at all.

While copyright law permits reverse engineering of software to develop interoperable products, contractual terms imposed upon the customer prohibit all reverse engineering. Some contracts even require the customer to agree not to contest the content provider’s claim of copyright ownership, raising the possibility that works that are not even protected by copyright are subject to limitations that mirror those available for works that truly are copyrighted.

Beyond altering the content of copyright law, private individuals and entities also play an increasing role in law enforcement. The MPAA supplies investigators to police departments to determine whether DVDs are pirated. Customs agents routinely defer to information supplied by copyright owners in seizing and destroying imported goods. VeriSign, the manager of .com Internet addresses has asked ICANN for permission to shut down domain names when asked to do so by law enforcement without the need for any sort of judicial review.

Recently, White House officials, including Copyright Czar Victoria Espinel, were involved in negotiations between the recording and movie industries and ISPs to interrupt Internet access for users suspected of violating copyright law. These negotiations, which take the form of private agreements between content providers and ISPs, have vast implications for consumers.

The traditional role of courts in determining whether infringement has occurred and punishment should be imposed is also increasingly privatized. Thousands of people targeted by the RIAA for file sharing have paid out penalties not because a court has found infringement but because it has seemed easier just to settle the dispute over the telephone with a credit card number. When this happens, the strength of the copyright owner’s case is never tested.

The Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), the companion bill to the Senate’s PROTECT IP Act, would further privatize adjudication and punishment. Title I of that law (dubbed the E-PARASITE Act) creates a “market-based system to protect U.S. customers and prevent U.S. funding of sites dedicated to theft of U.S. property.” It achieves this by empowering copyright owners who have a “good faith belief” that they are being “harmed by the activities” of a website to send a notice to the site’s payment providers (e.g. PayPal) and Internet advertisers to end business with the allegedly offending site.

The payment providers and advertisers that receive the notice must stop transactions with the site. No judicial review is required for the notice to be sent and for the payments and advertising curtailed—only the good faith representation of the copyright owner. Damages are also not available to the site owner unless a claimant “knowingly materially” misrepresented that the law covers the targeted site, a difficult legal test to meet. The owner of the site can issue a counter-notice to restore payment processing and advertising but services need not comply with the counter-notice.

There is also a catch: a site owner who issues a counter-notice automatically consents to being sued in U.S. courts (a strong disincentive for sites based abroad). With few checks at all, SOPA gives copyright owners a sharp tool to disrupt and shut down websites. Based on their past conduct, there is no reason to think that copyright owners will use this tool with any measure of restraint.

Copyright law that is made by private parties evades constitutional constraints that apply to actions undertaken by the government. For example, the Supreme Court has suggested that protections for fair use of copyrighted works may be constitutionally required; if Congress were to suddenly abolish fair use by statute, the change would be immediately challenged as violating the First Amendment. Fair use extinguished through private contract, however, is not easily subjected to constitutional scrutiny.

Likewise, when government agencies conduct investigations, Fourth Amendment limitations on searches and seizures and warrant requirements apply. MPAA–run investigations, by contrast, proceed free from these constitutional restrictions. So, too, before courts may impose fines for infringement or order websites shut down, there must be notice, a hearing, and other procedural requirements that comport with due process. Private adjudication and punishment proceed without any of these protections.

The biggest misperception about SOPA is that it is somehow unprecedented or extraordinary. It is not. SOPA represents just the latest example of copyright law defined and controlled not by the government but by private entities. Copyright owners will deploy SOPA in the same way they have behaved in the past: to extend out their rights. They will disrupt sites that do not infringe a copyright, interfere with fair uses of copyrighted works, and take other steps that evade the limits that the Copyright Act sets on a copyright owner’s actual rights.

Much of what will happen under SOPA will occur out of the public eye and without the possibility of holding anyone accountable. For when copyright law is made and enforced privately, it is hard for the public to know the shape that the law takes and harder still to complain about its operation.

Jason Mazzone is a law professor at Brooklyn Law School and the author of the new book, Copyfraud and Other Abuses of Intellectual Property Law (Stanford University Press, 2011). The website for the book is www.copyfraud.com.

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  • Lulz

    This is news? Not much different than the awesomeness done elsewhere when people willingly signed away their soul in a EULA… People are stupid, we already know that… Most of them are just waking up.

    • Guest

      “… but in contracts accompanying digital works consumers waive the right …”

      I believe the article was referring to the EULA in this line.

    • Shit stirrer

      “”Copyfraud and Other Abuses of Intellectual Property Law.”

      Where can I download this book? Can’t find it on TPB.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RIA7QDWOSYOQ6A3BWCQCGYACQM praise and worshipper

        It was deem “Malicious” by Verisign and MPAA and that website was taken down..” That shape of things to come….

  • SororPisces

    Once upon a time, in a country called Canada, any contract that violated the Charter of Rights and Freedoms was invalid. I happily click on the gobbledygook because enforcement violates my rights as a Canadian. With our present “Quisling” gov., who really knows what will happen. The Americans struck down their Constitution and unless I missed something (can happen), it has not been reinstated, although nowadays it does seem to not matter if there is a Constitution (or Charter) or not.

    • Floppy Copy

      People say capitalism is the American way. Apparently pissing away the freedom and liberty your forefathers fought and died for is the American way as well. The funny thing is, they understood the destructiveness of greed and left plenty of warnings to their decedents right from the very beginning, the founding of America as an independent country. Your behavior and greed are disgusting, and you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Money should never be more important than the well being of society, but I guess this is what you get when you worship the almighty dollar above all else.

      • Borderliner

        I’m afraid most people whom you are refferring to think in the lines of “MY well being is neccessary for society’s well being”. Kind of hard to argue with people who have Narcissistic personality disorder (which, atleast in it’s slightes form, seems to be the premise to become a part of the national “elite”).

      • Borderliner

        I’m afraid most people whom you are refferring to think in the lines of “MY well being is neccessary for society’s well being”. Kind of hard to argue with people who have Narcissistic personality disorder (which, atleast in it’s slightes form, seems to be the premise to become a part of the national “elite”).

  • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

    3 paragraphs til………..
    My new book, Copyfraud and Other Abuses of Intellectual Property Law.

    lol…. The shameless plug for your book aside…..

    Agree ….
    The privatization of public Law , by the few that are rich enough to buy it…is a big problem for the world…..Hence occupyWallSt.

    Copyright is just one of thousands of laws that are against human development and progress….

    “”without the possibility of holding anyone accountable. “”

    It’s everywhere…. from banks to police officers and beyond even government…..

    Do what they want,,,,,,“”without the possibility of holding anyone accountable. “”

    • Blue

      Shut your chops.

      • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

        awww , hit a nerve ?

        My “chops” are now “shut” , because……. your insightful comment is just……… a so…….. well thought out argument.

        You must be on a debate team….
        Genius persuasion … via logic , reason and accurate arguments.

        • Floppy Copy

          You’re right about laws holding back progress, which I have no doubt America will regret some day. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but eventually. The democratic governments of the world are selling out the people they are supposed to be serving and protecting. The word that comes to mind is traitor. I wonder who will be trying who as one when that fateful day comes? I know this will sound conspiratorial, but there are really only two outcomes I can see happening. Either the government becomes so infected by rogue elements, such as the corporations who are obviously moving to better position themselves, that the masses revolt and forcefully remove them from power before more damage is done, or the corporations manage to successfully take control of the government in a coup, which they’re already quietly doing. As history shows, revolts/coups are plausible and they’ve happened before, especially when times get tough and the people feel betrayed. No civilization has ever lasted indefinitely and they all self destruct eventually, especially the decadent ones. Change will always be inevitable in a dog eat dog world.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RIA7QDWOSYOQ6A3BWCQCGYACQM praise and worshipper

        No…Shut YOUR Chops..What Guy (ANoiXioNa) was saying is RIGHT ON.

  • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

    This does show the corruption that can take place because of copyright law.

  • AnonSucks

    I wonder where Anon is. This article mentions some of the very issues those who are paying attention have with SOPA. The non-judicial review needed to shut down services to sites, the little lack of recourse available to sites that were wrongly accused, the absolute lack of punishment to those who accuse erroneously, etc.

    But that’s okay, “as long as it stops those bad pirates”. Right Anon? (I’m sure you’ll see this and respond as per your usual standard, thus ignoring the issues with the bill. The issues I mentioned above, as well as others (ability to censor, freedom of speech violations, “guilty until proven innocent”, etc.)

    The sad part is that people aren’t aware of this, nor will they know until it goes into effect (assuming it does). The people against this bill (tech companies and founders of the internet and a slew of others) are being ignored and/or publicly denounced (either having their reputations called into question, their motives, or just flat out being called “liars” and/or making claims that “the sky is falling”). All in the name of profits and control.

    That this act will be abused is apparent even without it being law yet. It saddens me to see that some people, I don’t want to say are being un-American but that’s the only word I can think of that fits appropriately, are so gung-ho about this and want it to pass.

    It’s an overly quoted bit, but I feel it’s appropriate given the nature of the law in question. “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

    If the entertainment industries can’t make money in this day and age without having to resort to stripping us our rights, they don’t deserve to be propped up by the government, nor do they deserve to be in business. The answer to all their problems is readily apparent to all but the most willfully ignorant and blind. Give the people what they want. No, that does not mean give everything away for free. (Had to say that, before some idiot comes along and says that.) It means give them legal alternatives to file sharing/piracy at reasonable prices and in the formats they want. (Netflix is a great example of that. The only problem is the entertainment industries, in their constant greedy motivation have begun strangling the proverbial “golden goose”. They were getting a nice amount of profits from Netflix, but it’s always “more, more, more” with them. And now Netflix is slowly losing customers as a result of price hikes (which they had to instill to satisfy the greed of the stuidos), which of course affects the studios, who then cry “piracy” without realizing that they themselves are pushing away their own customers. Not necessarily to piracy/file sharing, but just away in general.)

    Here’s hoping this fails just like other previous similar measures. You can’t keep the people from doing what they want. Making it illegal and criminalizing their actions will do nothing to curtail them. Prohibition and the War on Drugs are testament to that. (See Anon, history is against you. But you seem to overlook the parts of history that are inconvenient to your little rants. You say the file sharers are nothing more than spoiled children who need to be punished, or that’s the gist of it anyway. I think it’s the entertainment industry who better signifies spoiled children. Now they’re getting punished. And rather than behave themselves, they’re throwing an even bigger tantrum. Which is only going to come back to bite them on the a$$ as history has shown it will.)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      That this act will be abused is apparent even without it being law yet. It saddens me to see that some people, I don’t want to say are being un-American but that’s the only word I can think of that fits appropriately, are so gung-ho about this and want it to pass.

      No, there is no patriotism here. It’s not an American problem. It’s socio-economic problem. The fact is, if you look into this, the monied interests that have congregated around the bill are those that don’t understand the internet. They understand how to make the internet act more like TV. It’s simpler. Control of distribution is simple. Learning how to make something new is not simple. Remember, these are the people that freaked out about the VCR, which made them a ton of money. These are the same people that thing an iPod is infringement. These are the same people that can’t understand how to make a good platform for artists, actors, and boom mike operators, but know how to lobby for rules they can understand and manipulate to their advantage. Let’s be downright honest. The rules have been in the favor of corporations since before the 70s. Who can really fight this when they’re too busy focusing on how the President is in the hands of monied interests that are even larger? One example is the pharmaceutical industry where patents actually kill. If you look far enough, you’ll see that politicians can rationalize this because these interests give them safer elections. In other words, this is all regulatory capture. That much hasn’t changed.

      If the entertainment industries can’t make money in this day and age without having to resort to stripping us our rights, they don’t deserve to be propped up by the government, nor do they deserve to be in business. The answer to all their problems is readily apparent to all but the most willfully ignorant and blind.

      Look up Doug Morrison. You’d be amazed at how much they don’t know.

      • AnonSucks

        I should have clarified a bit better. I do get what you mean about control. But what I meant by un-American is that the people who are totally in support of this, the average people (who claim not to be shills but you can’t help but really wonder, Anon for example) are willing to have their freedoms encroached upon and/or completely ignored (not too mention that they don’t care about anyone else’s freedoms in any of this, if they willingly want to sacrifice too f*cking bad for the rest of us, we have to as well) just to support this “fight on piracy”. That to me is quite simply, retarded. We had our forefathers wage a revolution over a slew of things which I won’t list, but at the end of the day it was about our freedoms. Now we have a bunch of people willing to trample all over our freedoms in pursuit of profits. To me, that is completely wrong. The people who go on and on about morals (“piracy is bad” “you’re stealing from the livelihood of artists” etc) are by their own turn ignoring morality in pursuit of monetary compensation.

        Which is another thing that bothers me, the hypocrisy inherent in the people behind this act and those in support of them. There’s no middle ground with them. The solutions to their problems all lie in a middle ground. But with them it’s “us and them”. You’re either completely with them or you’re completely against them and a criminal or supporter of criminals. I see countless people voicing concerns over these acts, and as I pointed out already, they’re being discredited, insulted and what have you. I’ve seen plenty of other comments on forums, from people like Anon, calling them “freetards” and “piracy apologists” and “thieves”. People mind you, who by their own words admitted that they DO NOT condone or take part in file sharing, but have genuine concerns over the potential for abuse by such acts. And merely are questioning it in concern for their rights.

        As for “safer elections”, well that’s a big problem to me. That these corporations and industries donate to politicians is fine, but not when doing so gives their voices preference over the voices of the people. Sooner or later things will come to a boil, not in a revolutionary sense, but in a “we’re f*cking tired of being ignored” kind of way. At that point, I’m hoping, the people will stand up and make their voices heard and the politicians will have no choice but to heed those words. Not necessarily because it matters to them, but for fear of losing their power and positions. I’d rather have someone listen to me and do something right for myself and others for the wrong reasons, than have someone not for other wrong reasons.

        Overall though, I think SOPA (and any other potential/future iterations) are short sighted thinking on the part of the entertainment industries. They’ll do nothing to curtail file sharing and will only hurt our rights and serve to stifle any possible innovation that may come in the future. Short term, it looks like a great idea. But the people they’re “fighting” against are people who are smarter than them and will find ways to beat whatever measures they enact. Long term, they’ll push people away and lose more from such actions than they could stand to gain. The people don’t know what’s coming. But when they find out they will not be please. So long term, they’re going to piss off a lot of people who can make their voices heard with their wallets. Just another example however of the industries not knowing things. Rather than innovate, they legislate. We can’t figure out how to try and entice customers, so f*ck them, we’re going to treat them ALL like criminals. Yeah, that won’t come back to haunt them. Lol. Fools.

    • Anon

      “I wonder where Anon is. “

      Thanks for asking.
      Mr. Mazzone from Brooklyn is largely correct in each of his talking points but misses the forest for the trees and thus, much of what he writes here is irrelevant.

      Creators and their industries have long endured and openly tolerated some degree of unlawful copying and distribution that was 1) beneficial to promotion that led to greater sales and 2) naturally limited in scope by the technology at the time. Making reel-to-reel mixtapes was never strictly legal, but it exists in a different universe from three or four mouse clicks and 100 million people get their “free” copy over the weekend. Games, at the moment, are particularly vulnerable to the rapacious abuse of technology. Just because you can do something is no justification to do it.

      I, for one, and I think most creators in the late 1990’s believed the public would realize how unfair and potentially destructive the 3 or 4 click=100million paradigm actually was, and the plummeting revenue speaks for itself. Pirates will point to a hundred different reasons why revenue might abruptly drop at the advent of Napster, but I think much of that line of thinking is specious and self serving. Full harddrives for free have clouded judgment, but not on our side of the divide.

      But the piracy didn’t stop, incredibly no, it’s amazing to us that you still love the products and copy them for yourselves but now refuse to pay just because tech gives you that cover. That just blows our minds at how cheap the pirate mentality really is. So gradually, artists and other creators decided to do something about this and the trends today are clear.

      It’s taken a decade or so for artists and other creators (and their agents and respective industries) to gather a common consensus, but I think it’s fair to say this:

      1. Pirates have made clear they have no respect for the pay model anymore and feel no responsibility towards it, so we no longer have any respect for your “rights” nor do we feel responsible for the gradual loss of them because this trend is a reaction to your piracy and not an independent action in and of itself.

      2. We also now see this as a much larger issue, as the westward expansion of America was a “landgrab”, pirates have also used vpn and encryption cover to landgrab whatever they can. Artists and digital creators are thusly now defining this issue along landgrab lines because pirates started it this way. Now we are no longer interested in the balance to which Mr. Mazzone refers. Now we are going for all of it, as much leverage and control as law, punishment and technology can afford us. You’d be astonished if you knew (or perhaps you do know) of the iris scan initiatives and other online identification models that will inevitably and unavoidably take their place when the time comes, step by step. There is absolutely nothing pirates can do to stop this. Nothing short of armed revolution and your numbers who would stand up to fight this are infinitesimal. It is all only a matter of time.

      3. And finally, artists and creators no longer feel obliged to let their work go to public domain anymore because the period under which it should (morally and legally) have been controlled and respected, was not. Flagrantly, was not. So a huge governmental initiative is already underway to grant identical ownership rights for creative works so they are indistinguishable from material rights, like home ownership or business ownership. Creative digital goods are the products we have to sell and the “houses” we live in, and digital changes everything. There is no longer any reason why works should resolve to the public domain, or at least not until ALL ownership of ALL property (material as well) is subject to the same loss of ownership and control. We will not rest until we achieve this equal status.

      This has nothing to do with buying legislators and judges and those of you who harp on this are looking at the .1% and ignoring the other 99.9%. This is about a return to justice after a decade of lawless digital ransacking, and this is about returning price where value lies so the worker can receive just payment as before and so government can rely on job production and the tax revenue streams that once accompanied the purchase of these works. Pirates have a chance only when they embrace their responsibility for replacing these revenue steams. With that you have a very compelling case. Without bringing the tax money you have zero chance, zero.

      Pirates live in their own little world. A monitor and a mouse to access “a different realm” was all they ever needed to acquire the free products they take. And to this day only a tiny, minuscule percentage point of the planet is willing to go public with these “principles”, the fact has always been that piracy hides in the shadows. But the artists, creators and related industries are doing our part in the light of day, upfront, open where you can see it and within the legislative process. We are slowly marginalizing your unlawful behavior with ever stricter regulations and life changing punishment while we regather the control we once had over our work before a thieving, pirate mentality abused amazing, empowering technology and brought an end to what could have been a free and open network.

      • AnonSucks

        Point 1 is completely irrelevant. You’re problem, yet again, is you’re actually focusing on a few trees instead of the forest. Piracy will always be around, no matter what you do, learn to ignore it and focus on the people who DO pay and who want you to take their money. You cannot take away the rights of the many over a few bad apples. You also ignore the lack of options you give people. You say they don’t respect the pay model. Well, it appears you don’t either. Not when you create artificial scarcity with methods like region codes or ignoring some regions entirely. That’s you not putting your product out there for people. Guess what happens then? They turn to other methods to get your product. They literally CANNOT give you their money, because you DO NOT want it. I do love what you said though, you do not have any respoect for MY rights, nor anyone else’s. It shows the mentality you have. No one matters, not even the innocent.

        Point 2 is also irrelevant. Iris scans? Lol. You’re f*cking nuts. I’m not sure how aware you are of technology, but iris scans can be beat currently. This may not be common knowledge, and I doubt you have any knowledge but common knowledge. I still recall awhile back you spoke of CIA-like methods to safeguard I believe it was a Jay-Z cd. CIA-like methods which were anything but. And the cd still leaked early. Emphasis on LEAKED. As in was let out by someone who was involved in the making of said cd. It is indeed only a matter of time. Sony’s security was top notch for a few years. Now jailbreaking PS3 takes a matter of minutes to download the approprate file and install it on a PS3. It’s so simple any idiot can do it. Given time, people can beat anything put in place. Drug dealers do the same thing on a daily basis. Hackers too. I could go on and on, but your thinking probably can’t keep up, much like your methods.

        Point 3 is relevant, unlike the rest of what you said. No longer feel obliged to let their work go into the public domain. Really? Why the f*ck should we the people care at all. Nothing made in my lifetime will actually be in the public domain in my lifetime. 95+ years before it MAY (not will) become public domain material. You expect people to respect that? You’re dumber than I thought. There is no “equal” status with you and your ilk. You take from the public domain and make a derivative off it, then when your creation is about to enter the public domain you lobby to extend copyright for a lengthier term. That is against public interest. You literally are not satisfied with what we allow you to have and you want more. If you can’t live off of what you create and make back a decent profit in 20 years, you don’t deserve to have it any longer. Obviously you’re a failure in every sense of the word.

        Also, notice how, much like I said you would, focus only on piracy and pirates in your rants. You assume everyone speaking against you and what you want is a pirate. I’ve said before I AM NOT. I DO NOT DOWNLOAD A THING. For the upteenth time. I am however a disasisfied customer who you have lost through your own stupidity. I can do without. Many can. Calling us all thieves doesn’t make us want to give you our money. You see what I mean? You can’t even discuss what I did talk about. You ignored everything I said, yet again, to focus on responding about pirates. All your points focus purely on piracy.

        The fact is, that piracy IS NOT as big a problem as you make it out to be. Otherwise the industries would not be making record breaking profits year in and year out. Otherwise companies like Valve would not be as big as they are and able to beat pirates at their own game (no pun intended). You can beat the problem by focusing on what causes it and address that. Valve has done so. Netflix did so, til you started f*cking that up. iTunes, Spotify, etc. All those managed to do so. Why? Because they give people options and do so at reasonable prices. You refuse to think about anything but “me, me, me” “profit, profit, profit”. You can think about both those things and still meet your customer’s needs/wants.

        You aren’t marginalizing anything but people’s rights. Innocent people’s rights at that. Which as I pointed out, is going to blow up in your face. As for your regulations and punishments, as I pointed out, history is against you in that regards. Life changing punishments? LMFAO. Yeah, they did that with drugs. Look how great that turned out. We now have more people in jail than any other country in the world, most in their for drug related charges, no of which are that major. All of whom we the law abiding now have to support. Oh and to top it off, tons of people still use and deal in drugs. In fact, such regulations and punishments made it so the drug traffickers have more money and power than they’ve ever had at any other point in history. Prohibition, same thing. Such reactions have done nothing but make the criminal element prosper and grow to sizes that were previously unimaginable. You don’t think ahead. Which is your problem in general. You don’t think. You’re a great example of the industries and the people running them. You’re an idiot. Pure and simple. You repeat talking points, you ignore any questions/concerns raised. You focus on the wrong people, the pirates instead of your loyal customers. You focus on fighting the wrong problem, piracy instead of providing a decent service. Etc. I could go on, but like you’ve done before, you’ll ignore anything that’s said by myself and others to go blah blah blah pirates blah blah blah stealing blah blah blah illegal etc etc etc.

        Poor, sad Anon. Show us on the little doll where the “pirate” touched you as a child. It’s okay, he won’t do it again. You can let go of all that pent up anger and move on with your life. I promise. : )

      • Guest

        Exactly how much cocaine do you ingest to think yourself that important? There certainly are reasons for governments to want to lock down the public internet, but at best you’re a convenient excuse, like child porn and terrorists. It’s not being done for you, you idiot thieving copyright monopolist.

        You personally may have failed, but that’s due to your own lack of talent, not outside forces. Entertainment revenue has been increasing year on year, especially when you count all the entertainment industry, not just that segment of the entertainment industry that’s being run by morons (i.e. american movie and music). Perhaps despite free sharing (which benefits creators too – after all, they’re net users of information too), but still. The core idea that they’re even losing money is a lie, at most they’re failing to gain as much as they feel they “should” be.

        But the entire entertainment industry is smaller than a few major tech companies Essentially, you already rely on our ethics and goodwill to not be steamrollered into oblivion.

      • Esn

        @Anon: to answer a few points…
        1&2) Even as I’ve pirated a lot of things (usually things that aren’t available in my country), I’ve continued paying money for art and artists that I feel a personal connection to. Destroying that personal connection (as your plans will do) seems to me like a good way to go bankrupt. You may want to look up the history of how things used to get funded in the days before copyright existed (for example, Albertus Seba’s “Thesaurus”), and look at how close the model is to the one now used by the hundreds of successful crowd-funded projects on Kickstarter. I really think that this is the wave of the future for artists – getting your fans to be your investors for your future projects – rather than your method of inflicting crueler and crueler punishments upon those who love what you do. You want people to feel responsible, to feel that their actions have a consequence upon your wellbeing? What better way than making it clear that without their support, you can’t continue working? Carrots, not sticks.

        3) Are you really serious? The public domain is DEAD. This is an empty threat. I don’t expect anything made after 1923 that’s still under copyright to go into the public domain in my lifetime, because I’m sure that when it comes time, copyright will be extended to 90 years, then 120, then 200, etc.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

        Let’s not kid ourselves… you are not a content creator, you represent the industry that profits off of controlling the distribution of their works, and getting creators to buy into the increasing falsehood that your industry is still relevant.

        I, for one, and I think most consumers in the late 1990’s believed the content gatekeepers would realize how unfair and self-destructive it was to continue expecting to control & restrict distribution and to charge physical-distribution-era prices in the age of digital, peer-to-peer self-distribution.

        You not only believe you’re entitled to payment every time we hear a song or watch a video, you assert that we no longer even own the copies we legally purchase, and all the while you drag your feet on offering competitive products and services we will pay for, rolling out as little as possible with as many restrictions as possible. And then even when we do buy whatever you’re shilling, it’s never enough.

        For example, I believed when I bought a CD or DVD, that I owned it and could rip it to my hard drive and transfer it to my portable devices. I also believed that my friend could supply me with his rip of it, saving me the trouble of ripping it myself. Our rips would be identical, and you already got paid, so what does it matter? Yet your industry says it deserves payment for the copy he makes, his digital transmission of it to me, any copies made along the way, and the copy I retain (cf. what what you did to mp3.com in 2000). You argue that we don’t really own anything, we’re only licensed to do certain things. You threaten us and our ISPs, you call us names, you litigate and legislate, you deny that we have any rights at all other than the “right” to continue paying you whatever you think the content is worth in whatever form you deign to provide it to us in, despite abundant evidence that it’s only worth a fraction of what you wish to believe. We are done with you. Goodbye.

      • Ballsdeep

        SHLURRRRRRRP!!!!! COME ON ‘ANON’ TAKE THAT MAFIAA COCK RIGHT INTO YOUR GULLET. THAT SHWEEEET SHWEEEET JIZZ WILL BE LINING YOUR STOMACH SOON DON’T YOU WORRY.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        Irrelevant on all points.

        If every other person in the streets proved guilty of misdemeanors then that still isn’t a good excuse to toss ordinary jurisprudence overboard.

        Or to put it bluntly – your arguments didn’t work well for the Sovjet Union, they didn’t do well for the DDR, and they aren’t flying here. Whether 20% or 80% of the free world starts filesharing or not there is simply no excuse to abolish the legal system.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RIA7QDWOSYOQ6A3BWCQCGYACQM praise and worshipper

        Wellllll ANON (and I see your need to be ANNONYMOUS….That was a nice monologue…. If you are foolish enough to think the buying public are going to go along with such DRACONIAN measures as Iris scans or other online initiatives, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum you should really look into China as a destination haven…their you can market your goods and if the Government doesn’t like what you have to say, wind up in their coooozzyyy, unheated prisons for 10 years. Not here in the U.S. and their are MANY more people that feel the same way that that I do, for sure!

    • Anon

      “I wonder where Anon is. “

      Thanks for asking.
      Mr. Mazzone from Brooklyn is largely correct in each of his talking points but misses the forest for the trees and thus, much of what he writes here is irrelevant.

      Creators and their industries have long endured and openly tolerated some degree of unlawful copying and distribution that was 1) beneficial to promotion that led to greater sales and 2) naturally limited in scope by the technology at the time. Making reel-to-reel mixtapes was never strictly legal, but it exists in a different universe from three or four mouse clicks and 100 million people get their “free” copy over the weekend. Games, at the moment, are particularly vulnerable to the rapacious abuse of technology. Just because you can do something is no justification to do it.

      I, for one, and I think most creators in the late 1990’s believed the public would realize how unfair and potentially destructive the 3 or 4 click=100million paradigm actually was, and the plummeting revenue speaks for itself. Pirates will point to a hundred different reasons why revenue might abruptly drop at the advent of Napster, but I think much of that line of thinking is specious and self serving. Full harddrives for free have clouded judgment, but not on our side of the divide.

      But the piracy didn’t stop, incredibly no, it’s amazing to us that you still love the products and copy them for yourselves but now refuse to pay just because tech gives you that cover. That just blows our minds at how cheap the pirate mentality really is. So gradually, artists and other creators decided to do something about this and the trends today are clear.

      It’s taken a decade or so for artists and other creators (and their agents and respective industries) to gather a common consensus, but I think it’s fair to say this:

      1. Pirates have made clear they have no respect for the pay model anymore and feel no responsibility towards it, so we no longer have any respect for your “rights” nor do we feel responsible for the gradual loss of them because this trend is a reaction to your piracy and not an independent action in and of itself.

      2. We also now see this as a much larger issue, as the westward expansion of America was a “landgrab”, pirates have also used vpn and encryption cover to landgrab whatever they can. Artists and digital creators are thusly now defining this issue along landgrab lines because pirates started it this way. Now we are no longer interested in the balance to which Mr. Mazzone refers. Now we are going for all of it, as much leverage and control as law, punishment and technology can afford us. You’d be astonished if you knew (or perhaps you do know) of the iris scan initiatives and other online identification models that will inevitably and unavoidably take their place when the time comes, step by step. There is absolutely nothing pirates can do to stop this. Nothing short of armed revolution and your numbers who would stand up to fight this are infinitesimal. It is all only a matter of time.

      3. And finally, artists and creators no longer feel obliged to let their work go to public domain anymore because the period under which it should (morally and legally) have been controlled and respected, was not. Flagrantly, was not. So a huge governmental initiative is already underway to grant identical ownership rights for creative works so they are indistinguishable from material rights, like home ownership or business ownership. Creative digital goods are the products we have to sell and the “houses” we live in, and digital changes everything. There is no longer any reason why works should resolve to the public domain, or at least not until ALL ownership of ALL property (material as well) is subject to the same loss of ownership and control. We will not rest until we achieve this equal status.

      This has nothing to do with buying legislators and judges and those of you who harp on this are looking at the .1% and ignoring the other 99.9%. This is about a return to justice after a decade of lawless digital ransacking, and this is about returning price where value lies so the worker can receive just payment as before and so government can rely on job production and the tax revenue streams that once accompanied the purchase of these works. Pirates have a chance only when they embrace their responsibility for replacing these revenue steams. With that you have a very compelling case. Without bringing the tax money you have zero chance, zero.

      Pirates live in their own little world. A monitor and a mouse to access “a different realm” was all they ever needed to acquire the free products they take. And to this day only a tiny, minuscule percentage point of the planet is willing to go public with these “principles”, the fact has always been that piracy hides in the shadows. But the artists, creators and related industries are doing our part in the light of day, upfront, open where you can see it and within the legislative process. We are slowly marginalizing your unlawful behavior with ever stricter regulations and life changing punishment while we regather the control we once had over our work before a thieving, pirate mentality abused amazing, empowering technology and brought an end to what could have been a free and open network.

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    On this site we measure often what copyright law means for the publick good. Copyright holders assure us, as they assure our courts, that their powers and priviledges under the current copyright regimes represent the most efficient, equitable, and socially responsible management of intellectual property for the publick good in our democracies.

    We dissent loudly; but, our dissent is not heard.

    If we complain that a 100 year term for copyright is inefficient, inequitable, and socially irresponsible, our legislators look past us, and through us, and over our heads; the better to see more clearly the corporate contributors and lobbyists seeking to extend that term an additional fifty years.

    If we demand that our Supreme Court favors us with a legally, socially, and morally responsible definition of the word “PERPETUITY” as it relates to a legal doctrine that consigns all intellectual property forever to the custody of a few large and well connected corporations, the Supreme Court answers us in choral harmony that the real meaning of the word “PERPETUITY” as it relates to the current state of copyright is in essence a “political” issue, best left to be debated and decided in our legislatures.

    If we complain that the purely administrative denial of civil liberties cannot be justified by the private pecuniary interest of any copyright holder, our dissent is not heard. Our ISPs are told to monitor us and disconnect us; our financial sevices providers are told not to complete our financial transactions and to withhold from us control over accounts that we rightfully own; police authority is told to knock down our doors, cross or transom, inspect and seize our property; all without full and complete prior judicial review, and, all to benefit of a private pecuniary intrest whose rational proffer resides in the moral and social primacy of its right to profit over the rest of society’s intrest in meaningful civil and human liberties.

    In this context, we should take heart that a law professor at Brooklyn Law school has found the voice and integrity with which to articulate insightful criticism of monopoly copyright. He has chosen to stand for principle on a dark and lonely corner of the publick square. The academic profession of which he is a part, however, has been fuctionally blind to the dissent that surrounds the legislated monopoly priviledges of copyright holders and the incalculable damage that their economic and political power threatens to inflict on civil liberties. It is the universities that should be at the forefront of our dissent. Perhaps one day they will rue their absence there.

  • Ven

    Is there a place where I can read your book for free?

    • Hmm

      Hmm… is that a loaded question?

      :)

    • Sondhay Drivah

      yes. it be called “public library”.

      • Floppy Copy

        Child: “What’s a library, daddy?”
        Father: “Go ask your great grandfather, he might know.”

      • Floppy Copy

        Child: “What’s a library, daddy?”
        Father: “Go ask your great grandfather, he might know.”

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  • Fred Trellis

    I can’t get past the stupidity of the first paragraph.

    Critics contend that copyright law tilts too far in favor of the interests of copyright owners and does not safeguard the rights of consumers.

    The rights of consumers? In this context, that’s a bag of horse poo right there. If I make X, no consumer has any right to X at all. It’s mine, I made it, and you can all GTFO.

    There is no balance to be struck here, unless it’s the one between the makers of things, and the people who have such inflated feelings of entitlement they feel no compunction to reward the people who entertain, inform and educate.

    The only right the consumer has is to decide for themselves which products they wish to spend their money on. They have no right to any product free of charge.

    Copyright being owned by corporations? That stinks. Copyright owned by descendants of the originators? That’s debatable.

    Copyright itself? No debate. I may or I may have a torrent downloader on my PC. The ability to do something does not confer the right to do it.

    Full disclosure: I own no copyright in anything.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jon.stephens Jon Stephens

      So if your kid dies from drinking something you reconstituted from a tin labelled “Milk Powder” which actually contains 80% milk and 20% drain cleaner, you’re perfectly willing to accept complete responsibility for that? After all, it’s your own fault for not subjecting the contents of the tin to rigourous chemical analysis first, right?

    • Kristoff

      “They have no right to any product free of charge.”

      That’s not true. I can read and publish Shakespeare’s Hamlet without paying any royalties. I have the right to copy and distribute works that are in the public domain. For how long do you think distribution monopolies (i.e. copyrights) should last?

      Retroactive copyright extensions tell us which lawmakers are corrupt.

      • Fred Trellis

        Thank you for making my point clearer with regard to my comment over copyright changing ownership from the original creator.

      • Fred Trellis

        Thank you for making my point clearer with regard to my comment over copyright changing ownership from the original creator.

    • Anonymous

      Not sure what you mean by “rights”, but fair use is in the current US law, and (says Wikipedia) was common law before that. In terms of any right that we might call “natural” or “inherent”, the right to use what you learn (including copying) seems pretty natural and inherent; copyright, patent, trademark, and trade secrets are all artificial constructions intended to yield economic progress and improvements to the general welfare; they’re not a “right” at all, but a compromise that has more-or-less worked over the years. There’s been a lot of gaming-the-compromise in recent years by corporate interests.

      And I am a part-owner of some patents, some copyrights, even a trademark, and I help maintain my employer’s trade secrets.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      “The rights of consumers? In this context, that’s a bag of horse poo right there. If I make X, no consumer has any right to X at all. It’s mine, I made it, and you can all GTFO.”

      The answer is that your definition is inaccurate. If you want to keep an idea private – or a song, piece of writing, whatever – then do not publish it.

      “Copyright” is the idea that you can or should be able to keep a secret even after you’ve scattered it to the winds. That’s not the way it works. And you will note that in every other case but media, neither the law nor an insurance company will even try to protect you if someone chooses to distribute your publicly announced ATM pin code further.

      It’s the other way around. If I hear idea X then you, as the originator, have no call on me to say what I can and cannot do with that idea. Were it so then simply by reading this you’d carry obligations to me as to what you were even allowed to do or not based on what I’d written. Up to the point of me forbidding you to even use my words as criteria for becoming upset.

      Those speaking about the “rights of consumers” where copyright is concerned are wrong, you are correct in that – the term is quite simply irrelevant whenever it concerns information which has at one time or other gone public.

      • Fred Trellis

        “Then do not publish it”

        Do not make a justifiable living from your creativity because of the possibility of theft? That makes no sense.

        “If I hear X … no call on me … what to do …”

        There are circumstances when that is true, and circs when it ain’t. These are words you are free to use. The lyrics of “Someone Like You” belong to the originator. The difference is in the effort and skill, time and resources used up in the creation of those words – and the originator is the best judge of that.

        If I have given a substantial period of time to craft words together that make sense, fit a rhythm, fit a melody, and covey a poetic feeling, I have a right to say exactly what you do with those. To the extent that I should be able to say “Listen to these whenever you wish. But do not pass them off as your own”.

        Gone public needs a definition here – there are 2 circumstances – one, where the released product is well-known, and secondly, when the product is freely-available from a number of sources. Which do you mean?

  • Anonymous

    i would have thought that this was extremely dangerous ground to tread. what industry/company will be next to try to get specific laws introduced that will benefit them? what will happen when there is no law at all other than individual industry and company law? no one will know what the fuck is going on! instead of going down this path, governments ought to be saying ‘whoa’. this cant begin, let alone continue’. every single person will be open to abuse. every single company/industry to will open to abuse from the next company/industry. perhaps 2012 is really going to be ‘the end of civilisation as we know it’. be a turn up for the books if it was all caused by the entertainment industries failure to adapt and wanting complete control of not just the net, but everything, wouldn’t it? how will that be explained in history books?

  • Fred_mason

    your book editor’s job is secure

  • http://twitter.com/funnyandspicy funnyandspicy

    It’s so aggravating to read this stuff, especially because it’s all BS, just as it patent abuse which is kind of similar.
    They’re both symptoms of how we run our society, not valid in and of themselves. So all the effort involved and all the suffering of private citizens being sued is because of a systemic problem further down the chain, namely the fact that we still use obsolete and damaging concepts like money and profit.
    Neither copyright or patents are good for humanity as a whole. The first slows down culture, art and entertainment and the other slows down technological progress and they both waste massive quantities of effort while we wrangle over them, effort we could have put to much better use.
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    • Deliberating Citizen

      That’s such horseshit, copyrights and other artificial protections give content/product creators an incentive to spend their time and money and create something of use to society. There’s a reason that the West easily defeated the Communists a few decades ago: our economy spurred innovation and development.

      Now whether or not copyrights should extend to infinity is questionable, they should have a time limit like patents. But to say that it slows down technological progress? Why don’t you read a reputable newspaper sometimes and see there’s more to the world than pirating.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        That’s such horseshit, copyrights and other artificial protections give content/product creators an incentive to spend their time and money and create something of use to society.

        They aren’t doing that. They’re valid tools for censorship. They are government mandated mini-monopolies for the state. The higher statutory damages make it easier to sue than innovate.

        But to say that it slows down technological progress? Why don’t you read a reputable newspaper sometimes and see there’s more to the world than pirating.

        Obviously, because you don’t know a thing about how copyright enforcement hurts our economy.

      • Guest

        No, we did that despite socialistic “help the starving artists who couldn’t survive in a free market” copyright and patent monopolies, not because of them. And if you think it was easy, you wren’t there. And patents definitely are known to slow down technological progress as a matter of historical fact.

        http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm

      • AverageJoe

        “That’s such horseshit, copyrights and other artificial protections give content/product creators an incentive to spend their time and money and create something of use to society.”

        No, copyrights and articificial protections don’t give them incentive to spend their time and money to create something of use to society. Because you’re overlooking the fact that despite those things, there’s no guarantee they’ll make back anything from what they create. They might, but there is no guarantee.

        “There’s a reason that the West easily defeated the Communists a few decades ago: our economy spurred innovation and development.”

        No, actually, that is incorrect. There are a plethora of reasons why the West defeated the Communists a few decades ago, but one of the big ones is that Communism was warped and twisted by various people to further their own agendas. In addition to that, their own agendas had strict demands that literally could not be met. So people forced to work under such plans (essentially everyone that wasn’t at the top) lied. Productivity quotas were falsified, rubles available for use were lied about, etc. So that eventually, when the time came to see what was left in the bank (so to speak), they realized there was nothing. They’d been deluding themselves for decades and it caught up with them eventually. That led to their defeat.

        “Now whether or not copyrights should extend to infinity is questionable, they should have a time limit like patents.”

        No, there is nothing questionable about whether or not copyrights should be extended to infinity. In no way should that even be considered by a rational human being. The latter part of that sentence is correct, they should have a time limit. However, it should be a REASONABLE time limit. Life+ X amount of years is not reasonable. In most ventures, if you don’t make it in a decade (two tops), then sorry to say you’re not going to make it period. If you can’t profit off of a copyright/patent within 10 years (or twenty tops), you don’t deserve to keep hanging onto said copyright. I think a reasonable amount of time would be 50 years (at the most) in my opinion. That’s less than a lifetime and it means things made within the average person’s lifetime will enter the public domain within their lifetime.

        “But to say that it slows down technological progress? Why don’t you read a reputable newspaper sometimes and see there’s more to the world than pirating. ”

        Have you read any reputable papers yourself recently? Because if you have, you’d see all the patent suits in the past year or two in regards to some of the most trivial of things. Things that are so obvious to some, they can easily be thought of by multiple people independently. Yet, patents are granted on some rather obvious things that are then used by companies who produce nothing to essentially extort money from others who happened to have the same idea. This does nothing but slow down technological progress. Heck, look at Apple. We’ve reached a point where Apple is basically claiming ownership over a shape. The rectangle (with slightly rounded edges). There is only one viable shape for cell phones/tablets. I’ll give you a hint, it’s like an elongated square. People are being legally prevented from selling competing products because they are making products that have a rectangular shape. This doesn’t seem to slow down progress to you? It does to me and any sane/reasonable person. Perhaps you should lay off of whatever paper you are reading and pick up something else. Or not even a paper, check out a few tech sites (like Engadget and others) to read about things like this.

        “Why don’t you read a reputable newspaper sometimes and see there’s more to the world than pirating.”

        Why don’t you open your eyes, try and bite back on that biased attitude of yours and see that there’s more to the world than pirating yourself. Not everyone complaining about copyright, SOPA, etc is a pirate. A large amount are regular law abiding citizens who pay for goods and service. A large amount are tech companies and inventors/experts who know what they’re talking about when they speak about the problems with copyright and acts that aim to limit technological advances and innovation. It’s always easy to discount something and somebody when you quickly dismiss them as nothing but “pirates” wanting “free stuff”. Try and see that there’s more than that going on though. Trust me, once you can see past that, a lot of problems will disappear because the solutions to them will become very obvious too all but the most ignorant.

      • Anon

        Deliberating, can you explain why a non tangible work should be subject to public domain and a material work should not? The digital revolution teaches us that digital works are the coin of the realm going forward. “Copyright” is outmoded, pure and permanent ownership is the fair way to go forward.

        Give me one good reason why people shouldn’t lose control of their homes and cars and other things they work to create and possess, if digital creators *should* at some point lose ownership of their digital creations.

        • AverageJoe

          “The digital revolution teaches us that digital works are the coin of the realm going forward. “Copyright” is outmoded, pure and permanent ownership is the fair way to go forward.”

          Digital works ARE NOT the coin of the realm going forward. Money is still the coin of the realm. However, information and technology are essential to moving forward. Technology is evolving at a rate that literally boggles the mind at the moment. Information is needed to enact such technology and build upon it.

          “Copyright” is anything but outmoded. Also, for someone who goes on and on about copyright and what have you, you’re showing how little thought you put into what you say. Copyright at the moment is Life + X amount of years. Know what that means Anon? It means that whoever creates something is granted a copyright on it until they die and then some. That to the average person, who is reasonable and logical, sounds like “pure and permanent ownership”. Life + X years after their death. How long has Disney owned Mickey Mouse now? Seems like forever. Life isn’t about “fair”. Some are rich, some are poor. Some are healthy, some are sick. And so on and so forth. “Pure and permanent ownership is the fair way to go forward.” Guess what? No one f*cking cares. No one is entitled to anything beyond life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (with a few things guaranteed by the Constitution as well, in addition to those things). Sorry to rain on your parade, but there’s no chance whatsoever of “pure and permanent” ownership replacing copyright as it currently is. Beyond which I don’t know why you’re even saying that. The status quo is more in favor at the moment of the copyright holders than it’s ever been at any other point in time. Fair? You want fair, retard? Fair would be allowing things to fall to the public domain, as was originally intended. No lengthening copyright when the copyright holders (seldom the creators) please. You know nothing of fair. Logic, intelligence, etc as well. You fall well short of most of the things that people should have.

          “Give me one good reason why people shouldn’t lose control of their homes and cars and other things they work to create and possess, if digital creators *should* at some point lose ownership of their digital creations.”

          Obviously, you’re not that up to date on how life and ownership works. Because only an idiot would’ve said what you did. People ACTUALLY do lose control of their homes and cars and others things they work to create and possess. It’s called a mortgage, a car payment, bills, etc. You DO NOT own your home or your car until you pay it off. Up until that point, while it may be “yours”, it isn’t actually yours. It belongs to the bank, the car dealership, etc. If you miss a payment or are late with one, etc they can and will take it back from you. At which point you will be evicted, on foot, etc.

          Also, as I pointed up above, digital creators DO NOT even lose ownership of their digital creations. So trying to make a comparison, at least one the way you did, is pure nonsense and erroneous on your part. Give me an example, a recent one, of any digital creator losing ownership of their digital creation. I’ll wait while you think of one. What’s that you say? You have no such example. I see. Because I’m right. No creator has lost ownership of anything they made, not in a VERY VERY VERY long time.

          Sigh. Step up your game whoever you are. I am an Average Joe and you seem to possibly be a content holder or shill of some type, and you’re being defeated by a regular guy on a point by point basis it seems. Whoever you work for, or whatever you do, you’re not earning your keep.

        • Guest

          Only copies exist. Each copy of some information is a different physical thing. You own your copy. That’s what the work you put in created – your copy. Not my copy. Don’t release it if you don’t want further copies made. Fine by me. Fundamentally, you confuse mine and thine, by assuming that just because something physical that you don’t own might encode similar information to something you own, that you own it too. You don’t. In fact, you’re stealing from everyone with your copyright monopoly claim.

          http://mises.org/against.pdf

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          That question fails on relevance.

          If I build a home to live in and someone takes it away I am now homeless. If someone copies my home I still have it.

          If I write a story and someone takes away the story from my bookshelf I am now without it. If someone copies it I’m not.

          As for a non-tangible work being in the public domain, it gets there by fiat as soon as you publish it. If you want to control said work, it’s called “keeping it a secret”. Digital creators and any other creator of pure information loses control over their creation once they cease keeping that information a secret. It’s that simple.

          “The digital revolution teaches us that digital works are the coin of the realm going forward. “Copyright” is outmoded, pure and permanent ownership is the fair way to go forward.”

          Utter BS. digital works are not and never have been the coin of the realm. That’s the fevered figment of some information-control dogmatic with a very sad and tentative grasp on reality. The coin of the realm is services in the digital realm. Not much else. The furthest abstraction you can get to in that realm is “eyeball time” – i.e. the purveyor of digital content selling a lease to a third party for you reading ads.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          That question fails on relevance.

          If I build a home to live in and someone takes it away I am now homeless. If someone copies my home I still have it.

          If I write a story and someone takes away the story from my bookshelf I am now without it. If someone copies it I’m not.

          As for a non-tangible work being in the public domain, it gets there by fiat as soon as you publish it. If you want to control said work, it’s called “keeping it a secret”. Digital creators and any other creator of pure information loses control over their creation once they cease keeping that information a secret. It’s that simple.

          “The digital revolution teaches us that digital works are the coin of the realm going forward. “Copyright” is outmoded, pure and permanent ownership is the fair way to go forward.”

          Utter BS. digital works are not and never have been the coin of the realm. That’s the fevered figment of some information-control dogmatic with a very sad and tentative grasp on reality. The coin of the realm is services in the digital realm. Not much else. The furthest abstraction you can get to in that realm is “eyeball time” – i.e. the purveyor of digital content selling a lease to a third party for you reading ads.

      • Anonymous

        Actually, there’s a wealth of empirical data to show that copyrights and patents are either a negative drag on the economy or a wash with no net return or loss. There is no empirical evidence to show that copyrights and patents have actually advance the progress of the sciences and the arts.

        Try reading this to get a good summary of that data: http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/against.htm

        After reading that, I find it hard for anyone to seriously maintain an opposite position with any semblance of sincerity.

      • I am Spock

        HA, show me a “reputable newspaper” to read and I might just do that!

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        Honestly, that’s bullshit. The reason the West easily defeated Communism was simply because communists believed in information control whereas the west did not. Historically, every nation which ignored patent laws, copyright and licensing flourished where every nation which did respect such nonsense did not.

        The most telling point in modern time would be the US nationalization of airplane patents, but examples abound.

        As for copyright and patents slowing down technological progress – explain to me how come, every time in history where a country has chosen to ignore copyright and patents, that country has gone into feverish development?

        Today it is nearly impossible to create or innovate in the US as you need a full team of lawyers to establish your rights to use said invention for anything beyond the most basic mechanics. When Apple finds it’s products technologically inferior to Samsung it sues them off the market for creating a “rectangular plate with centered screen and rounded corners” instead of innovating. After the human genome project was completed, every public research into breast cancer ceased since a US company decided it owned the link between the gene BRC1 and breast cancer.

        Yes. Progress is slowed by copyrights and patents. That is quite obvious and self-explanatory. This can be seen especially well in the software sector where open source projects are surpassing proprietary solutions in both efficiency and breakneck pace of development by orders of magnitude.

        You’d have to be largely ignorant or locked in dogma conflicting with reality to miss this.

      • Borderliner

        > That’s such horseshit, copyrights and other artificial protections give
        > content/product creators an incentive to spend their time and money
        > and create something of use to society. There’s a reason that the West
        > easily defeated the Communists a few decades ago: our economy
        > spurred innovation and development

        So… how does the fact that Communist China quite literally owns you right now fit into the picture?
        That aside what you are completelly ignoring is how much culture the Eastern Communist block created. In that point the only difference from the West was that the authors didn’t become rich. They became well known, much loved, occasionally even acknowleged by the goverment, but not rich. That didn’t stop them. Unlike the mythical “modern artist protected by copyright” who won’t be an artist anymore if he/she desn’t get paid.

    • Deliberating Citizen

      That’s such horseshit, copyrights and other artificial protections give content/product creators an incentive to spend their time and money and create something of use to society. There’s a reason that the West easily defeated the Communists a few decades ago: our economy spurred innovation and development.

      Now whether or not copyrights should extend to infinity is questionable, they should have a time limit like patents. But to say that it slows down technological progress? Why don’t you read a reputable newspaper sometimes and see there’s more to the world than pirating.

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  • Zenasprime

    The use if the words “Copyright Owners” implies that all creative people desire sticter copyright law and that they are all in agreement with each other. This is not the case. There are those of us, who you might call “Copyleft Owners”, to be cheeky”, who do not believe thus, and would like to see copyright laws retured to a rational state of balance.

  • Hanna

    United States Constitution, Article I, Section 8 –
    The Congress shall have Power … To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries

    • Anonymous

      That clause is an optional grant of power, not a command to exercise it.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      Try reading up on the views of the founding fathers. none of them believed in copyright at all. Though perhaps Thomas Jefferson was the most pithy in his universal condemnation of all things regarding patents and licenses on “information and ideas”.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      Try reading up on the views of the founding fathers. none of them believed in copyright at all. Though perhaps Thomas Jefferson was the most pithy in his universal condemnation of all things regarding patents and licenses on “information and ideas”.

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  • Anonymous

    I seem to recall that some of the rights that Big Content is seeking to limit are *inalienable* under the constitution. That means that you cannot simply waive them through contract. On the other hand it’s up to us to know what those rights are and we must be vigilant in asserting those rights even when someone claims those rights have been waived.

    I otherwise agree with this post. Copyright maximalists are going to need a new occupation that requires the use of a broom.

  • foff

    I always considered TOS agreements unenforceable bullshit. They are not agreements and not any kind of legally binding contract. That aside no amount of laws will change the fact that a digital file is easily shared. What really bothers me is not the file sharing because all the claims of loss are bs and unprovable but what bothers me is the inability to do derivative works. For example without licensing there could be thousands of stories in the Harry potter universe. There would be hundreds of thousands in the star wars universe. Copyright laws severely restrict creativity in these areas. Think about it 100 years from now when these are in the public domain no one will care and they will be very dated. Look how dated the star trek universe is starting to look this brand is almost moribund.

    The cost of a video is way to much for the information given. The average retail hardbound is about $30 which translates into 15 or so hours of audio meaning each hour of audio information is worth about $2. Since it would take several videos to compress about 500 pages of info into a video at most each video is worth about $5. The value of a song is worth very little when you consider you can listen to it free any time on youtube. I know this argument is skewed when you consider text books but consider most of the information in any text is not original. I could easily look at half a dozen calculus texts select the best method of theory presentation and put my little spin on it, pick a few sample problems change a few things and wa la I have a $200 dollar text book. The only thing I lack is the credentials since I don’t have a phd behind my name. The point is there is almost nothing new or creative required to do this so how deserving am I of a copyright for such a work?

    Even in fiction JK Rowling did not pull everything in hp out of her butt. Most of the ideas came from works she had read or movies she had seen. There is some originality and creativity there but how much? Almost every fantasy contains the elements that are in her story. Good versus and evil and good wins in the end. For a kids adventure the violence and evil was certainly over the top in the end. That simple seven book creation made her a billionaire so who gives a fuck! Wish we could all do that. The point is like patents may be copyright needs to be more specific and cover only certain aspects of a work such as the characters and certain locations but not the whole content.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      ToS are more or less attempts from the provider of a service to exempt themselves from responsibility. same as a EULA. And it’s dubious whether any claim made under a ToS or EULA would survive even casual weathering by a lawyer.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      ToS are more or less attempts from the provider of a service to exempt themselves from responsibility. same as a EULA. And it’s dubious whether any claim made under a ToS or EULA would survive even casual weathering by a lawyer.

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